I am sure some of us could name players that have spent 4 years at OU and never played a snap. If they rotated more, to help keep injuries down, and let every one play, while not burning a red shirt, could make for alot more happy campers.
"I don't think I've ever seen a kid leave a program like OU and succeed elsewhere." Yah, that Aikman guy sure sucked at UCLA. T. Choice is pretty good too.
^^^^this. My source is also a player so I will not name names. However, the above is precisely the issue (the coaches do bear responsibility for not defusing it, however, or taking some other action to remedy the situation). There is a certain "leader" on defense who is actually anything but, who thinks everyone should suck up to him. He acts like he's all that, but hasn't got the tools he thinks he has. One guy on the field, totally different personality when the cameras are off. There's a big loyalty split among the defensive players. Venables apparently doesn't know how to handle it.
This thread is awesome. Its got everything you need - New Trolls Old Trolls Rumors Un-named sources Martin Hyperbole The list goes on...
Agreed. Calling someone aggy because they're not hiding behind crimson sunglasses or whatever, seems well....awfully aggy to me.
Defensive players and RBs leaving en masse... I have no idea what is going on. Gundy has too long of a good track record for this to logically be on him with the RBs. I think BV has lost it, though...
You know what, I've think we've talked Tashard Choice to death. As for Aikman, again it's a different situation that what we're talking about here. The coaches fully encouraged Aikman to leave and helped him get in touch with the UCLA staff. We're not talking about players who aren't seeing the field and complaining about playing time. When Aikman left Switzer said that he was an outstanding QB who will be very successful at UCLA. He just no longer fit the offensive direction the coaches had taken. That being said, Aikman does seem to have a different recollection of how things went down than Switzer's version...
If we're gonna start naming coaches, might as well put Heupel's name out there. I know of several players who think he is an absolute *** hole of a coach. And with all these offensive players leaving........... It's early and I may be overreacting, but this is starting to feel a little like the ut situation last year.
One could gather that from watching the ESPN special.. he was pretty animated at times.. lol I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now but who knows.
How about Brandon Keith? Starting OT for the Arizona Cardinals. I would say that he found a little bit of success elsewhere.