Official Game Thread: Oklahoma vs Texas Tech

[tulsaoilerfan]

Well if we stopped trying to throw to Tennel that might be a good thing :)

[ndpruitt03]

"Bob Stoops didn't seem to worried coming out of the locker room"
Bob Stoops 10 years ago would have been one pissed off mofo coming out of the locker room.

[Okie35]

Now I don't like what I'm seeing

[SunnySooner]

Landry, bud, gotta get rid of those!!!!

[tulsaoilerfan]

Oh that sucked and check your pm's please collier if you are still here :)

[Sooner4FCD]

What a bunch of retards, they stared at the ball while we recovered it.

[adoniijahsooner]

sometimes jones holds on to the ball too long

[Okie35]

"Bob Stoops didn't seem to worried coming out of the locker room"
Bob Stoops 10 years ago would have been one pissed off mofo coming out of the locker room.

10 years ago we didn't have 3683693683968 injuries.

[FaninAma]

Collier, you are a bit naive if you feel
a 4million dollar a year head coach and
the highest paid asst. Coaching staff in
country don't deserve a lot of the blame
for this meltdown.

At least we know Stoops isn 't going anywhere
this year.

[mightysooner]

Landry is definitely bird dogging like crazy.

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

geebuz! are you serious? come'on Landry! if your first receiver isn't there, look elsewhere. damn!

[tulsaoilerfan]

Landry just seems to be looking for the pass rush way too much; he seems like he has regressed since the first of the season

[ndpruitt03]

10 years ago we didn't have 3683693683968 injuries.

Injuries happen, it's apart of the game. Doesn't really change that much.

[fadada1]

isn't this fun.

[tulsaoilerfan]

We should just turn on the pron; at least we could enjoy that for 5 minutes or so :)

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

i like landry and think with time, he'll do well, but from week to week, you never know what your gonna get. 5 TD's or 5 INT's. every week this team looks different. it's so frustrating.

[BoulderSooner79]

isn't this fun.

The game is not much fun. But somehow all this bitchin' cracks me up.

[SUPERFAN]

isn't this fun.

I hate being mediocre.

[Collier11]

Oh that sucked and check your pm's please collier if you are still here :)


Im back, had to cut off a good dump to watch us punt, dammit


Collier, you are a bit naive if you feel
a 4million dollar a year head coach and
the highest paid asst. Coaching staff in
country don't deserve a lot of the blame
for this meltdown.

At least we know Stoops isn 't going anywhere
this year.

and neither is KW...if this offense was executing KW would have the ability to call more plays, anytime we try something diff, throwing deep, wildcat, shovel pass, we dont execute

[Ground_Attack]

Landry just seems to be looking for the pass rush way too much; he seems like he has regressed since the first of the season

Well, he has lost like 80% of the starting line since he took over. That would make me look at the rush a bit more too. Its understandable.

[StoopTroup]

has it been stated enough that FSN coverage SUCKS!

Not only does it suck. (They aren't covering the game) They are very one sided. If Tech makes a play...it's about how much they have improved and what a great job everyone is doing...

If we have a big play...they make a comment about how Tech almost stopped that one and then do another interview with someone in the booth until it's 3rd and long.

Pathetic.

[Soonerus]

It seems like a broken record...

[tulsaoilerfan]

The game is not much fun. But somehow all this bitchin' cracks me up.

LOL mostly frustration on my part

[soonerboy]

how do you not cover the guy that has been burning us all game?

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

we look like a D-II team right now. this is fuggin ridiculous.

[Okie35]

STOP running MAN TO MAN

[BrockLanders]

This is about to get ugly boys.

[Soonerus]

announcers are horrible...

[SUPERFAN]

"But boy does it work."

[Soonerus]

We NEED the D...

[tulsaoilerfan]

I can understand the offense sucks, but where's the D been today?

[Collier11]

Here we go, TT is executing plays and we have our heads up our butts

[tulsaoilerfan]

Now 12 men on the field? WTF?

[Okie35]

I don't even think when we beat OK State I'll be happy because of this performance.

[SoonerSeattle]

Seriously, the lack of offense doesn't surprise me anymore this year. But where did our defense go since the first couple of drives this game? Yikes.

[tulsaoilerfan]

These last 2 road games have to be the worst in the 11 years Stoops has been here; has the team just quit?

[Collier11]

finally we stop that stupid play

[Soonerus]

I can understand the offense sucks, but where's the D been today?

I know, I never thought our D would play this poorly...

[Gilligan]

Go Defense.......we need a score......

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

I can understand the offense sucks, but where's the D been today?

they're back in norman hangin out with their fat girlfriends

[Okie35]

REALLY?!

[tulsaoilerfan]

Wow our corners are getting abused today

[Sooner98]

Has the defense now quit also?

[Gilligan]

Looks to me like the game is getting out of reach.........

[SoonerSeattle]

Wow. This defense is unrecognizable.

[Soonerus]

We are making Torres look like an All-American...

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

ball game. gonna go get lunch, watch a movie with my wife, and try to forget how bad we are.

[sooner518]

yes, on 3rd down, lets only rush 3 and not get any pressure. and STILL leave a wide open receiver in the endzone. WTF

[Collier11]

yep, the D is lost today

[okiewaker]

Holy sheet! Oh well, they look like they don't feel like playing.

[tulsaoilerfan]

they're back in norman hangin out with their fat girlfriends

LOL, now that made me laugh; thanks!! Spek coming your way

[BoulderSooner79]

There's blood in the water, guys.

[instigator]

Sweet. That was a 91 yard drive.

I blame Nike.

[okiewaker]

Holy sheet! Oh well, they look like they don't feel like playing. No fight in them.

[instigator]

Sweet. That was a 91 yard drive.

I blame Nike.

[Okie35]

Wow our corners are getting abused today

and you put it nicely. I think we should burn these jerseys after the game.

[12]

Wow. We officially aren't the Sooners.

We'll be back. I know it.

[JLEW1818]

just can't win there anymore

[SGT Park3R]

I just don't understand our team this year. TT lost to A&M. OU makes A&M look like a Div II-A school and now we are losing to TT. Just don't get it.

[Sooner4FCD]

My kingdom for a pass that goes 15 yards past the line of scrimmage in the air.

[Ground_Attack]

why does our kickoff return suck so bad? just awful!

[instigator]

Sweet. That was a 91 yard drive.

I blame Nike.

[MamaMia]

Adjustments?

Surely you jest. :OI know, but I was just hoping that maybe this time we would.

[okiewaker]

On that TD there was a blitz and it looked like the blitzers were waiting in line for coffee.

[SoonerBacker]

This is gonna be much uglier than the nebraska game was. We look like s**t!!!! The final score could be a complete reversal of last year.

[Lott's Bandana]

I blame jet lag.

[FaninAma]

This team has quit on the coaches.

[Gilligan]

Maybe if someone called a play that required a pass for more than 10 yards we might be able to get a first down......

[Sooner4FCD]

Not one pass thrown more than 3 yards down the field.

[fadada1]

is this season some kind of sick fvcking joke???

[Okie35]

Wow. We officially aren't the Sooners.

We'll be back. I know it.

:rolleyes: I have officially became an anti sunshine pumper. We'll beat Ok State at home next week but I'm not happy.

[tulsaoilerfan]

We need about 3 pick sixes and we will be just fine :)

[SUPERFAN]

is this season some kind of sick fvcking joke???

Yes

[bggjr]

Why do they keep going to commercials during the game? Sheesh!

[SoonerTank]

I blame jet lag.

You are insane!!!:D Thanks, I needed a laugh!

[sooneronloan]

I don`t understand why this game means more to us then the team they have quit

[JLEW1818]

embarrassing

[Gilligan]

7 more field goals and we could tie the game....hehehe.....jk....

[Sooner4FCD]

Here is the next offensive drive

First Down-2 yard rush up the gut
Second down-4 yard comeback route completion
Third down-Incomplete bubble screen

[okiewaker]

is this season some kind of sick fvcking joke???

I was thinking the same thing. What now Reynolds is hurt!

[Collier11]

This team has quit on the coaches.

Get a clue

[Lott's Bandana]

Sadly...the Bell Telephone Rotary Phone Bowl will be played...

On...

The...

Road...

[mightysooner]

aTm beat this Tech team 52-30 in Lubbock. Just sayin.....

[Okie35]

I blame jet lag.

We looked ahead to the Pokes :rolleyes:

[JLEW1818]

we just are not a good road team this year.

basically immaturity on offense

[Soonerborn03]

Another receiver hung out to dry.

[BoulderSooner79]

I just want an offensive TD at this point.

[Lott's Bandana]

Gawd, at least we have Gymnastics.

[Collier11]

I wasnt gonna drink today, now I will

[okiewaker]

Get a clue

You are in denial. The D, atleast, looks totally uninspired.

[HateUifNotSooner]

how can they be this bad???
REALLY????

[SUPERFAN]

Gawd, at least we have Gymnastics.

You made me laught at that.

[Collier11]

Im not in denial about anything, we arent that good but we certainly havent quit. You guys quit searching for something else to gripe about, it is what it is

[Gilligan]

I think that Landrey Jones needs his mustache back.....he is off balance without it......

[Sooner4FCD]

that's a horrible call

[Soonerus]

Why even throw to Tennell ???

[SoonerSeattle]

that was a bs call - normal pushing & shoving

[Gilligan]

Could someone please catch the ball........

[Ground_Attack]

Tennell ****ing sucks. Bench is sorry ***.

[HateUifNotSooner]

Tech is totally owning OU. they've actually given up.

[crimson monkey]

Tennell needs to grab some bench.

[Collier11]

why is Tennell still playing, he has not made a play today worth talking about, surely there is someone who will go fight for the ball and make a play...Im now a Arizona fan tonight

[EskimOU]

Do we even have a progression for our receivers? Landry just picks one and stares at him for the whole play.

[Soonerborn03]

Why are the announcers apologizing for Landry on every play?

Sure, Tennell dropped it again. But, it would have been an uncontested catch if Landry led him. Tennell had to come back to catch that ball in between two defenders

[Lott's Bandana]

This all started with SoonerSports.com's "Big Surprise".

Burn them.

[Gilligan]

Could we put in our third string quarter back......it worked for OSU.......

[Okie35]

You are in denial. The D, atleast, looks totally uninspired.

Everyone is looking uninspired its the jerseys. We need Sooners on the chest because they definitely don't look like Sooners. Burn them after the game. No really though we look like kids on the road. When we win next week it will make me even madder.

[okiewaker]

I haven't griped. Just sayin the D looks uninspired probably cause the O can't score. IDK

[Soonerborn03]

Why are the announcers making an excuse for Landry on every play?

Sure, Tennell dropped it again. But, it would have been an uncontested catch if Landry led him. Tennell had to come back to catch that ball in between two defenders

[pappy]

so does bob remind everyone that he has won 6 conference titles when he meets the press after the game? its almost the off season he might as well get started early this year on reminding everyone.

[Soonerus]

Being taunted bt T.Tech...geeeeezzz....

[JLEW1818]

i hate my life

[PLaw]

Wow - shocker. biggest suprise is the D, just wow.

[OUinFLA]

Toilet Bowl, here we come

[Collier11]

I hate your life also, and mine

[SGT Park3R]

I just don't understand our team this year. TT loses to A&M. Then OU makes A&M look like a Div-IIA school. And now we can't even score a TD against TT. I'm confused

[TXBOOMER]

Thanks for the new signature idea boys.

[okiewaker]

Guys running wide open for Tech. Gee whiz.

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

Box does anyone know when he will come on I was hopeing for more from him

[mightysooner]

aTm beat this Tech team 52-30 in Lubbock. Just sayin again....

[Soonerus]

Why did our D take the day offf ???

[instigator]

At least it's a short drive from Dallas to Shreveport.

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

Bet he comes back and rips someone into

[PLaw]

We've got big time issues. Just don't look very tough or inspired at all.

[Okie35]

Oh great more ppl hurt.

[JLEW1818]

D aint doing great

still don't have a TD guys

[swardboy]

Box does anyone know when he will come on I was hopeing for more from him

It's a secret

[Collier11]

Hate to say it but Box looks much better than Reynolds, im sure Reynolds will still start next week

[Okie35]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Soonerus]

Uhm, can we borrow Mangino for the post-game team meeting ???

[TahoeSOONER]

DBs are getting punked and Franks and Clayton never got off the bus.

[PLaw]

Man, I thought Stoops / Venables had Leach's number - guess not. Determined to make "Nick" look like a Heisman contender.

[Gilligan]

My GOD....STOP THEM

[Okie35]

Hate to say it but Box looks much better than Reynolds, im sure Reynolds will still start next week

He is now. He's been since Reynolds had those surgeries.

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

So we score 6 tds in the 4th and win going away...Right??...Right??

[Collier11]

Thats what im saying, he can make plays that Reynolds just cant and I love Reynolds

[CaliBornSoonerBred]

Sitting 17 rows off the field posting from my phone.....I can't remember seeing a Sooner team look so demoralized and just plain out of it on the field. The whole team looks like their minds are already on the bus leaving the stadium

[FaninAma]

Collier, you have my vote for the best Sooner
fan of all time.

[sooner59]

This is by far the most disappointing season since 1998. And even after this *** whooping we are taking, I still think we beat the pukes next week. This is just a weird*** season.

[SCOUT]

On a positive note, this season is reminding me a lot of my college days.

[Soonerus]

Stoops teams have a tendency to lay these big eggs...

[TXBOOMER]

Taking a GD a$$ kicking on the road because your offense can't travel is getting old. There are teams with less talent than we have left on O that score Focking TD's on the road.

[Collier11]

Collier, you have my vote for the best Sooner
fan of all time.

your smart azzed comments dont change the facts and that is that I am realistic and you are a whiner. Im more than disgusted with this season and this performance but I gaurantee you that this team hasnt and wont quit on Coach Stoops

[Collier11]

why is it that their WRs can make the above average catches and we cant make the simple ones

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

Im more than disgusted with this season and this performance but I gaurantee you that this team hasnt and wont quit on Coach Stoops

This ^^^^

[Lott's Bandana]

When was the last time we didn't change any of the numbers on the press box during the off-season?

Even McCoy's lustre is being diminished by all this dreck.

[StoopTroup]

Taking a GD a$$ kicking on the road because your offense can't travel is getting old. There are teams with less talent than we have left on O that score Focking TD's on the road.

It does....

But it doesn't mean I won't still be in the stands in Norman next week screaming my *** off at aggie.

It's a tough year.

I wanted us to win this one too...but...it wasn't meant to be. Let's hope we leave Lubbock healthy.

[Gilligan]

GD......another touch down

[EskimOU]

Running through us, over us, around us. This stinks

[StoopTroup]

I blame Jerry Jones, U2 and Nike for all of this.

[LiveLaughLove]

Stoops teams have a tendency to lay these big eggs...

They do, but why?

Ive never seen as many OU teams that quit in a game as they have during his time here.

We've had great wins, but some of the worst losses ever.

As Im typing they score again....easily. Just embarrassing. :mad:

[mightysooner]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

[HateUifNotSooner]

your smart azzed comments dont change the facts and that is that I am realistic and you are a whiner. Im more than disgusted with this season and this performance but I gaurantee you that this team hasnt and wont quit on Coach Stoops

i disagree. they have completely given up, and to think otherwise is total denial.
they're getting dominated because they didn't even come to play.
i'm just saying what everyone else is thinking. what a let down. i don't know if this is something that can be fixed. i think we're going back into the dark ages again. damn!!!

[crimson monkey]

I can't believe I am still sitting here watching this.

[okiewaker]

This is gross. time to open beer!!

[Sooner98]

This is worse than the K-State, USC, and West Virginia games. At least those teams were really good. Tech lost 52-30 to A&M on this same field just 4 weeks ago. This is completely unacceptable, and I can now say that I don't even care if Stoops took the Notre Dame job. Whatever. We'll still get good talent, and at least we can maybe get a coach who is able to get his team mentally tough enough to play well, away from Norman.

[SUPERFAN]

This is gross. time to open beer!!

You're a little late.

[Soonerus]

Now the sand-aggies are mocking us...

[JLEW1818]

damn, playing jumper around on us

[Okie35]

This is by far the most disappointing season since 1998. And even after this *** whooping we are taking, I still think we beat the pukes next week. This is just a weird*** season.

Yea we will beat OK State. Tech thinks they are funny but they lost to the Pokes and will lose their bowl game.

[Collier11]

This is not OU football, so depressing

[OUBookbabe]

What happens to this team on the road???????

[okiewaker]

OK, Sun Bowl? I will be there.

[TUSooner]

It's a real blowout, now.
I'd say our #1 problem (among many) this whole season has been the weak O-Line. They couldn't open up the running game against any decent opposition, and they couldn't protect the best QB in the country (or his backup).

[rawlingsHOH]

UR (6-4) beating UR (6-4), with no one in the nation even knowing the game is on, doesn't quite have the same pop as two Top-5 teams battling out for a shot at the national title.

Just sayin

[Gilligan]

Down by 3 scores......yea....great.....lets run the ball.....mmmmmmm....good offensive coaching.....

[instigator]

Was that offense????

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

That was a nice play

[Sooner Eclipse]

would like to remind these ahole announcers that this game means **** in the grand scheme of things. Last years game was for the B12S division rep position. House of Pain, pfft, tech should play den of thieves

[Okie35]

Why doesn't Jaz get more reps? He seems to always catch everything thrown at him.

[BrockLanders]

Our "jump around" moment was better than theirs.

[SUPERFAN]

Jump around? For what?

[mightysooner]

Stoops should make these clowns walk home.

[josh09]

Yea, but if we were in their shoes, we'd do the same thing wouldnt we? Haha but still, Tech fans are *******s....

[crimson monkey]

Thanks for the neg you old grumpy fart. Just stating the obvious.

[Okie35]

Really?!

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

Can we play our bowl at home??

[EskimOU]

Is Broyles our 3rd string QB now?

[JLEW1818]

great Kevin Wilson!!! you saint!

[sooner518]

flashbacks to Renaldo Works......


My fiance's sister went to Tech and last year I was incredibly nice after the win and didnt say a word after the game. If she gives me hell for it, Im gonna be pissed

[soonervegas]

I think the blame this year lies squarely with those fans that refused to pump sunshine.

[SUPERFAN]

Where is the "OU needs to practice more" report?

[Sooner4FCD]

Now the sand-aggies are mocking us...

Pretty hilarious really that they think winning the game between two teams playing for the Cotton Bowl is the same as winning the game between two teams playing to go to the National Championship.

Let them think this is a really great win for them...we'll be back next year and can take solace in our three Big 12 Championships in the last three years. They've never won anything.

[Collier11]

Top 10 programs execute and play well on the road or at home, something has to change. Stoops needs to take a look at the way he prepares this team, it isnt just bowl games anymore

[instigator]

What a ****ty day.

[Soonerus]

pathetic...

[Sooner4FCD]

Texas Tech plays jump around when they become bowl eligible...Oklahoma plays jump around when they become national championship eligible.

And that's pretty much the difference between the two schools in a nutshell.

[OUBookbabe]

double post-sorry

[EnragedOUfan]

Should we consider hiring a new Strength and Conditioning coach?

[tulsaoilerfan]

These are the worst 2 road games OU has played in the 11 years Stoops has been here; what the **** is the problem?

[tulsaoilerfan]

Honestly i hope there is no bowl game this season

[Soonerus]

The refs feel sorry for us...

[sooner518]

now Adrian Taylor is injured. has Tech had any injuries this game or they all ours? At least GK is back in the game

[KABOOKIE]

Awesome! Ticket prices will surely go UP next year! :rolleyes:

[SUPERFAN]

Honestly i hope there is no bowl game this season

Only reason to go...we need more practice.

[okiedokie]

good for two yards every play.......geeeeeez:pop:

[Soonerus]

The dumbass announcers just gave us an extra loss...

[Collier11]

we need the bowl game practices

[tulsaoilerfan]

Only reason to go...we need more practice.

I'm not sure it will help any :mad:

[mightysooner]

Honestly i hope there is no bowl game this season

Me too. Let's decline all bowl invitations and have mandatory practice every day until kick off day next season. And on the weekends.

[Soonerus]

If we lose to Ag we should consider declining a bowl offer...

[Collier11]

if you dont go to a bowl you cant practice anymore

[HateUifNotSooner]

the team we're watching today won't be able to be OSU next week.

[Gilligan]

I wonder if we put in our third string (now second string) qb if our results will be as good as OSU's
and could we please pass beyond the first down marker. probably not...we will just give up and run the clock out kevin wilson style....

[FaninAma]

Will Stoops shake up the coaching staff like Mack did before 05? I doubt it.

[KABOOKIE]

If we lose to aggie there will be no bowl invite.

[tulsaoilerfan]

if you dont go to a bowl you cant practice anymore

I know and i think the other poster was kidding

[Collier11]

Tennell a drop, whatya know

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

the team we're watching today won't be able to be OSU next week.

This is not the team that will show up next week....see the sched...its at home

[Soonerus]

the team we're watching today won't be able to be OSU next week.

Good, who wants to be OSU...

[tulsaoilerfan]

Why do we keep throwing to Tennel?

[sooner518]

really Broyles?

[instigator]

Taunting? Seriously?

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

when will Broyles learn about taunting

[OUBookbabe]

could we be any more stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Gilligan]

YEA.....touch down.......Why act that way....how stupid

[Collier11]

and we are celebrating while down by 3 tds, wtf

[mightysooner]

I think there's been multiple, major misfires gauging offensive talent in the recruiting process. These guys are turds.

[Rogue]

"A meaningless touchdown"

[Soonerus]

That's a terrible call....

[Tulsa_Fireman]

Adron Tennell couldn't catch the God damned clap in a mexican whorehouse.

My two cents.

[CarolinaSoonerFan]

Finally a TD

[OUinFLA]

yippie! td !

[Sooner98]

Really? High-stepping into the endzone when down by 28?

[okiewaker]

Taunting. Oh Bageezus.

[SoonerStud615]

Adron Tennell couldn't catch the God damned clap in a mexican whorehouse.

My two cents.

THIS.

[Okie35]

I don't even care about that high step. At least we scored and the only person that scores when we play like ****.

[StoopTroup]

Thanks for posting the #7.

Now I know who you were talking about.

[Gilligan]

This game is soooooo disapointing.....and sooooo poorly executed.......makes me wonder.....

[Lott's Bandana]

Why isn't Broyles afraid of doing things like that?

Shouldn't he be?

[FaninAma]

Does Tennel have a visual perception problem? I'm serious. He really cannot be that bad without some visual-motor coordination issues.

[Soonerus]

Thanks for posting the #7.

Now I know who you were talking about.

True, at first I thought he was talking about Bill Murray...

[Okie35]

Nick at Nite but its daytime. How lame are these announcers?

[delhalew]

Why isn't Broyles afraid of doing things like that?

Shouldn't he be?

The answer to that is the answer to all of our problems, with the exception of record amount of injuries.

[Soonerus]

This season is coming to a conclusion much like it started...

[Gilligan]

why no flag.....how stupid

[Pricetag]

I don't even care about that high step. At least we scored and the only person that scores when we play like ****.
He is part of the reason that this team sucks. He is a perfect candidate for an on-field leader, and instead, this is what he does. This team has a major problem.

[Tulsa_Fireman]

FIRE LAUNDRY VULNERABLES-WILSUN

[Gilligan]

god...these announcers are STUPID

[Collier11]

and im sure our weak azz media wont ask Stoops the tough questions this week like they should

[FaninAma]

Somebody just one-starred the game thread. LOL.

The one bright spot is that OU can put a serious hit on Texas' SOS now by kicking Aggie's @$$ next weekend in Norman.

[Collier11]

well here goes 40

[MamaMia]

I think the blame this year lies squarely with those fans that refused to pump sunshine. Among others, that would be me.

[Soonerus]

Leach will try to score...I don't really blame him..

[Soonerus]

Worst OU game ever !!!

[Collier11]

why wouldnt he

[TahoeSOONER]

That flop you heard in west texas sums up this season.

To me, defending our home territory agains't the pokes will barely give me any joy what so ever for this season.

[Okie35]

Leach will try to score...I don't really blame him..

I don't either. They better enjoy it because next year they'll lose by like 50.

[Collier11]

they are really wearing out the jump around stuff, its not even funny anymore

[FaninAma]

Who cares if TT rubs it in. If our players don't care whetehr they score or not.

Oh BTW, IMO when you start seeing players leave with injuries like today it is a sign that they have given up and don't want to play through minor injuries any longer.