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Mixon Video to be made public???

Discussion in 'Sooner Football' started by SoonerinSouthlake, Feb 22, 2016.


  1. Tear Down This Wall

    Tear Down This Wall Well-Known Member

    It was posted on a website for about 2-3 hours shortly after he turned himself in. The website then took it down because they said they'd been contacted by attorneys who told them it would compromise the case.

    I don't think Castiglione and Stoops have a plan. I think they've been following Boren's "lead."

    Because The University of Oklahoma doesn't exist in a vacuum, it is glommed into the national "this is what's wrong with college football" narrative: "This college lets athletes rape coeds, that college lets athletes assault women, another lets their athletes steal, they all give them worthless degrees, etc., etc., etc."

    Boren could have gotten way out in front of it by sitting Joe and Bob down and saying, "This is ugly. Let's do a presser where the kid apologizes to the girl, the school, etc." Instead, they've got school lawyer-released "statements," word from Eric Striker, and the OU staff shushing national media at the playoff.

    Just a complete PR fumble. For what? The eligibility of one kid?

    Crazy.
     
  2. achiro

    achiro SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Comparing what Rice did to what Mixon did is just ****ing stupid.
     
  3. Tear Down This Wall

    Tear Down This Wall Well-Known Member

    For whom? Rice because he didn't break his fiance's face, like Mixon? Or, for Mixon because he didn't stick around and drag the girl out, like Rice, after he broke her face?
     
  4. badger

    badger Vacuums eat while yelling

    There's also the age discrepancy. Mixon had just turned 18, barely an adult, whereas Ray Rice is in his late 20s. There's the alcohol discrepancy --- the woman who attacked Mixon was likely drunk, whereas Mixon likely was not (both Ray Rice and his wife were intoxicated at the time of the video incident). There's the professional football versus college football thing... there's the "they're engaged" versus "they're strangers" thing...

    About the only thing that makes these two incidents similar is that there is a video tape and that a football player punched a woman. Alas, that's about all that the court of public opinion needs to put them in the same sentence.
     
  5. KantoSooner

    KantoSooner SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    this 'complete pr fumble' has also been referred to as the model way to handle the situation.
    Facts were gathered and weighed and a punishment was laid and served out, with a minimum of hoopla.
    Don't forget, the victim in this case was not an angel, the police (city, not campus) were involved immediately, thoroughly and elected to not proceed on the basis of the same evidence you have seen (and probably a lot more), the punishment was more than a wrist slap, and was imposed immediately, not after years of obfuscation, the circumstances of the event were far less indicative of malicious intent than, say, dragging a girl off to your room to forcibly rape her (looking at you, Crablegs Rapeypants), and, finally, Striker's comments were completely uninvolved with this incident. What? You get annoyed by young black men being vocal?
    The actions of the OU admin were correct and prompt in circumstances that do not match those at Tenn or FSU in the slightest.
    Put the hobby horse away.
     
  6. Tear Down This Wall

    Tear Down This Wall Well-Known Member

    Uh-huh...it's all rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, though, from a PR standpoint. Not everyone who sees the video is going to have Crimson-colored shades on. So, here's what they will see:

    -An athlete breaking a girl's face and getting to stay on the football team...with OU law alumni in the city and judiciary trying to cover it up.

    It doesn't matter how many shades of nuance OU fans and supporters wish to throw on it, when it becomes a national story, it is out of the hands of OU and its supporters. We may not like the fact that the narrative will be that way nationally, but it doesn't matter. It's already been going that path anyway, as seen from the attempted playoff interviews.

    Here is where more PR savvy would have helped. You are dreaming if you think people around the country who see a video of an athlete knocking out of girl will try to differentiate between it and Ray Rice, FSU, Tennessee, etc. Rather, it will be lumped in with those. Boren will not be able to control the narrative.

    And, again, because it's a guy knocking out a girl with one punch caught on camera, it's going to be compared to Ray Rice no matter the ages, levels of alcohol consumed, or any other scenario OU supporters might wish.

    It's ugly, and the truth is, it should have been handled in a way that put it to rest and gave the school better cover. To the nation, it's just another school in a town full of its own law school grads in city and court positions trying to cover up.

    Not good. And, it didn't have to be that way.
     
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2016
  7. SoonerorLater

    SoonerorLater Well-Known Member

    PR be damned. That would be about the most pea-brained thing he could possibly do and any attorney who would allow his client to do so would be an incompetent fool. Why would anybody in their right mind give a person like this ammunition for possible (likely) civil litigation? Every word Mixon says about this incident should be marked as if his future financial depends on it, because it does. 'No comment' would be the best tact.
     
  8. olevetonahill

    olevetonahill Well-Known Member

    You must remember TDTW is a Perfect individual, There is NO 2nd chance with him, Plus the fact he has a Raging Boner for Boren ,Joe C. And Bob and all their staff.

    While for the Most part I agree with him, On this I disagree wholly
     
  9. Tear Down This Wall

    Tear Down This Wall Well-Known Member

    She's still within the statute of limitations for a civil suits - and, so are all parties involved: City of Norman, OU, Mixon, Pickleman's. They could have done themselves a favor with contrition and helped themselves tremendously. Pickleman's claiming they destroyed the original evidence within the statute of limitations time is really stupid on their part, by the way.

    As it stands, any civil suit filed, apology or not, is going to be settled out of court. There is no denying he caused her injuries. There is an obvious court record; plus, her attorney has a copy of the video and is hanging on.

    They'd have been smart to be more solicitous and contrite from the beginning instead of letting it drag on. Had they done that from the get-go, everything would have already been done.

    I don't think Stoops is smart enough to have figured out what to do. Castiglione is simply looking after the money. Boren led, and has put himself, Joe, Bob, and the school in a box. His word about "second chances" have already been used against him in the SAE deal as well.

    The video coming out will bring that back up as well. His moral high ground charade there was shaky enough to be questioned against the Mixon incident. The video will simply crush it.

    Politicians.
     
  10. Tear Down This Wall

    Tear Down This Wall Well-Known Member

    What are you talking about, future financial? If he still has this hanging over his head come NFL draft time next year, how is he helped?

    It's the same thing: had it been over with, he could go into the NFL draft with a clean slate, being able to say to teams, "Look, I manned up publicly, apologized, etc., etc., etc."

    As it is, he's been nothing but defensive about, and whether or not that's on advice of counsel, OU, or both, it's stupid. You think the NFL and its teams are looking for MORE bad press these days?

    Plus, with the league going more and more to the pass, and running backs becoming more of an afterthought, how in the world does it help Mixon to have this hanging over his head when he becomes draft eligible?

    NFL teams don't need or want the headaches at a position where guys are more viewed now as plug-one-in/dime-a-dozen. They'll roll the dice on receivers, quarterbacks, defensive ends, and corners. They ain't rolling the dice on running backs these days.

    It's nuts. He's gotten bad advice from day one about how to handle this thing - from OU and whomever his attorney is. They appear to think that there is a flat earth around the City of Norman where no other context except their own exists.
     
  11. SoonerorLater

    SoonerorLater Well-Known Member

    Sigh. There is zero benefit for Mixon to admit any guilt. Zero. This is a media driven vendetta. This matter has been adjudicated. Mixon doesn't owe anybody, anything with regard to this matter. He has answered to the court, the team and the school. It's done.
     
  12. olevetonahill

    olevetonahill Well-Known Member

    Bingo.
     
  13. KantoSooner

    KantoSooner SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Does anyone who is actually practicing have an opinion on the statute of lims on this? So far as I read, it's an 18 month SOL and would have 'tolled' at the latest by the time his Alford plea was made; which was was fall of 2014, correct? if so, it's either run or will in the next several weeks.
    Judging from the fact that the young lady had an outstanding warrant and was not unfamiliar to law enforcement in the county, one has to wonder whether a grand bargain was not struck. Something along the lines of: Joe enters Alford plea, loses a year of playing and keeps his damned mouth shut. You, young lady, leave the University, stop dealing drugs in the state of Oklahoma and desist from legal action. and we all call it done. M'kay? Alright kiddies, hope y'all enjoyed your night out on the town. Off you go.
     
  14. badger

    badger Vacuums eat while yelling

    fyi

     
  15. Pride1Mom

    Pride1Mom Member

    If you want fair....wait till the last week in September. The judgment has been passed. People get away with MURDER: George Zimmerman, O.J. Simpson, etc.....
     
  16. olevetonahill

    olevetonahill Well-Known Member

    You are one WHACK broad!
    Mixon punching a mouthy Drunk broad out that was all up in his face is equal to Murder? And where was the "MURDER" by Zimmerman? I musta missed it .
     
  17. SoonerinSouthlake

    SoonerinSouthlake Well-Known Member

    Are Joe and Bob calling Walter White and Jessie Pinkman asking how to wipe a video file from a drive using a giant magnet and box truck?
     
  18. badger

    badger Vacuums eat while yelling

    What seems to get the court of public opinion in a tizzy is if the punishment fits the crime.

    Right now, as it stands, the punishment was one year off from college football, getting your name dragged through the mud (mugshot, court appearances, etc) and the crime was punching a woman really hard after being provoked.

    What the court of public opinion seems to be thinking is that the actual crime was punching the woman really hard in a way that will depicted far worse than any of us can imagine in a video, and the punishment should be kicking him off the OU team.

    So that just sounds silly, because then he'd just play football somewhere else and he wouldn't lose anything else except the year he already lost once again. Is that really the goal here --- make him play football elsewhere and sit out another year? Because that seems to be end result if the court of public opinion gets what it thinks it wants
     
  19. KantoSooner

    KantoSooner SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    what the nattering class wants is to make decisions themselves. They don't really 'want' more or less punishment...they want to decide on the punishment themselves. Or, even less charitably, they simply want to sit in the peanut gallery, picking their noses, leering and criticizing.
    But, of course, they are not going to face up to the logic that they can not make every such decision...and only those decisions they wish to make and still have society rumble along even as well as it does today.
    Further, such people don't want to do the work and invest the time and energy in achieving positions that grant them the authority to make decisions, because that would be boring and would take time and devotion.
    If they did, they'd be honestly sick and tired of the endless stream of crap they had to face and would look at a situation like L'Affair Mixon and say, 'Meh, somebody dealt with it. Time to move on.'
     
  20. achiro

    achiro SoonerFans.com Elite Member

    Rice was in a relationship with the woman that he hit and he hit her twice as I recall. Mixon mouthed off, got pushed, then SLAPPED by a complete stranger(who was drunk). Two COMPLETELY different situations. BTW, It's easy to see something like that after the fact and say what you would or would not have done but the truth is that in this day and age, someone that you don't know attacks you(man or woman), you better be prepared to defend yourself.
     

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