I see a bit of a pro Sooner trend here...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2913197
I see a bit of a pro Sooner trend here...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2913197
Know thy self,
know thy enemy.
A thousand battles,
a thousand victories. - Sun Tzu (500 B.C.)
Hmmm... interesting... hating on whorns and Sooners.
One's a rookie... one's not a natural NFL saftey.
...a-ahem... move to LB, Roy!!!
I agree with all the hype surrounding VY that he's overrated. He'll be good with time, but their are honestly some saying he's going to take them to the Super Bowl this year and crap like that.
"One has to wonder about the structural integrity of the Vintage Cotton Bowl the last 14 years. There's been a lot of weight on that Oklahoma side."
Merrill Hoge is such a tool. All last year and even before the 2006 draft, he was a notorious Vince Young hater... the old, "he'll never make plays in the league, he won't be able to run away from the defenders.. the Titans made a wasted draft pick... he'll never be able to play quarterback.. blah blah blah.."
Now.. it's... "he could be a good quarterback in the league and maybe much more?"
The boy had too many concussions.
Having said all that... yes.. the expectations for VY are far too great for this next year.
In Pacem Requiescat --- October 5, 2003 - October 18, 2010.
Both are right - about Williams and Young. Without help from a legitimate free safety, Williams is terrible in coverage.
As far a Young and the Titans, they won one game last year when a defensive end stopped tackling Young on a fourth down that would have ended the game because he thought the whistle blew. In another game, the Titans won without scoring an offensive touchdown.
The strength of the Titans in 2006 was their run game - when Henry was healthy - and their defense. Even with those two strengths they were still woefully average.
But, as I said last year, the NFL isn't about performance anymore, it's about marketing. That's why the league props up the notion that Young and Tony Romo are legitimate QBs. It's a huge joke, of course, but as long as the jerseys sell, the NFL plays along with it. Look how long they've propped up Michael Vick.
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
Roy Williams is no speedster, but he has made several interceptions in his career.
Did you guys miss the sooner love we got for Kelly Gregg? (I am assuming this is the same DL Kelly Gregg that was on those terrible John Blake Teams)
Seems like it was missed by most so far. Yes, it is THE Kelly G.Originally Posted by schlanker
Know thy self,
know thy enemy.
A thousand battles,
a thousand victories. - Sun Tzu (500 B.C.)
"Most underrated players:
1) Wes Welker (hated this guy when he played for Miami)
2) Jason Taylor
3) Arizona WR's"
-by some guy named umassrebel...
I didn't know he went to Miami...
Wakey Wakey Eggs & Bakey...
Psssst! That'd be the Miami Dolphins, not Canes.Originally Posted by CatfishSooner
Just as a friend, I think Wes should have gotten mention in the article.
As to Welker, yes maybe the most under rated cat in the history of football, period.Who is the most underrated player?
Schlereth: Rams quarterback Marc Bulger. He consistently performs and has proven he can put up big numbers even without Mike Martz leading the way. This is a talented kid who had to play last season with a shoddy offensive line and still put up big numbers. One of these seasons people are going to wake up and be amazed at the numbers he has amassed.
Hoge: Aaron Smith of the Steelers and Kelly Gregg of the Baltimore Ravens are tied for this one. These are two of the best defensive linemen in the game and the linchpins for their team's defensive success up front. Neither gets the respect he deserves from the pundits, but both are highly regarded by offensive and defensive coordinators around the league.
Know thy self,
know thy enemy.
A thousand battles,
a thousand victories. - Sun Tzu (500 B.C.)
Kelly's Ravens teammates would agree that he is underrated. Ray Lewis has called him out by name in the national media as the heart and soul of that defense.
Roy Williams was tied for 2nd most interceptions among safeties and tied for 3rd most pass deflections among all safeties (strong and free) in the NFL last year. That's pretty darn good for a strong safety, but even better when you look at the lack production from the rest of the secondary. He doubled up Pat Watkins, the free safety in both categories. He had more interceptions than all the corners combined. He had the same number of interceptions as the entire rest of the defensive backfield, and was 2nd on the team in deflections behind Newman, a corner.
“Some people who attend the University of Oklahoma seem to represent different values than some people who attend the University of Texas.” -- Mr. J. Mcfarland
"[Christian Scott]'s off the team the day of the incident and I guarantee you he won't be back." -- Typical Dallas horn fan
[QUOTE=TexasLidig8r]Merrill Hoge is such a tool. All last year and even before the 2006 draft, he was a notorious Vince Young hater... the old, "he'll never make plays in the league, he won't be able to run away from the defenders.. the Titans made a wasted draft pick... he'll never be able to play quarterback.. blah blah blah.."QUOTE]
No love for M-Hoj?
Roy Williams keeps getting blamed for all three of his other DB's failures. He still led the NFL in INT's for a SS, and he's still among the best hitters/tacklers in the league... people who hate on him are just looking for a reason to.
"One has to wonder about the structural integrity of the Vintage Cotton Bowl the last 14 years. There's been a lot of weight on that Oklahoma side."
some of those are texass fans who expect WAYYY too much from there players, even in the NFLOriginally Posted by goingoneight
"You know OU has won five conference championships and UT has only one so it's like......ok?"
- R.J. Washington
I went to school with Merrill's younger brother who really is a tool. Merrill is actually a decent guy and still a hero at Idaho State University (Go Bengals).
Originally Posted by olevetonahill
Originally Posted by TexasLidig8r
all we are waiting for is the sprained ankle that will slow him down juuuust enough to get a good shot from a ray lewis/brian urlacher type then vinnie will be on the downward spiral. yeh yeh yeh he can throw pfffttt whatever. the ONLY thing he has going for him right now is speed. we'll see when he's not quite so mobile.....
everyone can see it except whore/titan fans......he's a larger vick that's it. period. hide and watch.
Ole Vet Posse SGT-AT-ARMS.