I'm torn on the issue.....I'll let you know what I decide, thx.
I'm torn on the issue.....I'll let you know what I decide, thx.
Ok so now we are here on page 12 and nobady has answered the question posed by me on page one and again later in the thread.
How is his statement about the Rutgers girls racist if he called the Tenn girls "pretty" and there are plenty of black girls on the Tenn team?
I would agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
What about all the wannabe's... Dean needs to be representin too yo!Originally Posted by jk the sooner fan
represent this, muh****ah.
Something I noticed yesterday: The Rutgers coach spoke yesterday about "...not letting things like this get to her." If the school had to call a press conference about what was said about her team, is that letting a comment get to her?
"If your dream ain't bigger than you, there's a problem with your dream." -Deion Sanders
I'd have to say so.
Also, is it possible some of these ladies are subject to worse treatment at road games? And if so, how do they handle that?
Lookit, if Don Imus' employer decides this is a firable offense, they're within their right to decide it is.
But I think several people are blowing this out of proportion.
Just imagine there's a really obnoxious graphical sig here
I think they should have held the press conference but avoided mentioning the Imus comments at all. They should have stood up and stuck strictly to the message of their championship and the effort that it took to get there and how proud of themselves they are for accomplishing that. Take Imus out of the equation and make it about the team.
What championship?
Real Name: Mark
Err, championship game.
supposedly the players are getting bombarded with phone calls, emails, and text messages about it. Hence the press conference they had as a team yesterday. I think it was more of a "we can't escape this" reasoning for the press conference.
"The mark of a great player is in his ability to come back. The great champions have all come back from defeat." - Sam Snead
Imus made some craphead comments and I think he was dead wrong for saying them. This has been blown far enough out of proportion a'la the Anna Nicole baby-daddy thing that I think it must be a vast right wing conspiracy to detract from all the dyin' goin' on in Iraq. It's George W. Bush's fault. There I said it.
Imus is a liberal democrat
so all liberal democrats must hate nappy headed hoes.
We in the Republican Party however embrace nappy headed hoes, ... and jigaboos
I hope that something good comes out of this. I am so sick of hearing people, especially young people, using words that I was raised to find offensive when they refer to each other. It's sad to say, but I wasn't as offended as I should have been by this episode - probably due to hearing these words bandied about. I am not pleased that I am becoming to "used to" this type of thing.
Bring back respect for others.
The fans on here are known for their objectivity, fair play, open minded welcoming of others, debating in an upfront, firm, but respectful manner.....TexasLidig8r 11/21/04
The ACLU would get involved in this and protect Imus if he had said it about a christian school's basketball team....
Now I retreat
Bazinga
Well, no more IMUS on Mrs. NBC.
Golly, I'm sure gonna miss his show...
Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.
I know a lot of people don't like Whitlock, and I'm not going to go through the 6 pages to see if this has been posted, but I think he makes some good points about the Reverend and Al:
Imus isn’t the real bad guy
Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.
By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist
Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem.
You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality.
You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor.
Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred.
The bigots win again.
While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.
I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.
It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent.
Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves.
It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud.
I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike ****** blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack.
But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.
I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed.
Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.
Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage.
But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction.
In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive?
I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do?
When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim.
No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out.
heh. L*pica is still banned?
Whitlock is right on the money.
http://www.aprilwinchell.com/
So Many People to Thank
STATEMENT FROM NBC NEWS
Effective immediately, MSNBC will no longer simulcast the "Imus in the Morning" radio program. What matters to us most is that the men and women of NBC Universal have confidence in the values we have set for this company. This is the only decision that makes that possible. Once again, we apologize to the women of the Rutgers basketball team and to our viewers. We deeply regret the pain this incident has caused.
* * *
Well, our long national nightmare is over.
As we sit with our families tonight, slowly healing from this terrible ordeal, we are filled with gratitude. And we have so many people to thank.
Thank you, NBC/Universal. Thank you for upholding the values you have set for your company by firing Don Imus.
Some people might say you would have better upheld those values by dumping the NBCUni show, Maury; a program that exploits the absolute dregs of the black community, and plays squarely into every stereotype imaginable.
But what do they know? Taking Don Imus off the air just as he was about to start two days of fundraising for cancer-stricken children makes a much stronger statement about your values.
Thank you, Al Sharpton, for showing us that apologies are not meant to be accepted from white people, and not to be offered by black people. Give our best to Tawana.
Thank you, Al Roker, for taking time away from the important job of reading weather reports someone else wrote for you, in order to hoist your fat *** onto the race-baiting bandwagon. Thank you for showing us that the quickest way to elevate yourself is to step on the back of someone who is already down.
Thank you, Barack Obama, for supporting the silencing of someone who has offended you. Your committment to the sanctity of the first amendment is positively presidential.
And what a wonderful message you've sent to the black youth of this country: Jokes matter.
Let stupid comments rob you of your self esteem. Give every ******* the power to spoil your accomplishments. Yes, Mr. Obama, you are truly a beacon of all that is possible in their lifetime.
And while we're on the subject, thank you, Rutgers Womens Basketball Team, for being persuaded to be hurt by a joke that a ten year old would laugh off. How hard it must have been for a group of strong, smart, empowered women to bow to pressure to feel degraded by a witless crack from an old white guy. Thank you for allowing the spotlight to hypnotize you into submission, so we could have this important national dialogue.
And thank you, American media, because now that you have purged MSNBC of racial insensitivity, it stands to reason that every network, every radio station, every movie studio and every record label will follow suit!
Goodybye, Black America Radio! Farewell, Spike Lee! So long, Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, Tyler Perry, Bill Cosby and every black comedian who has ever worked in any medium!
Gone is Mel Gibson, Jesse "Hymie-town" Jackson, Carlos Mencia, Lisa Lampanelli, Howard Stern, Don Rickles and anyone else who has ever uttered a word of derision, joking or otherwise, about any person of any race or religion.
It feels good, doesn't it?
Well, it gets better. Because now, it's our turn!
We can't hold public figures to this standard if we ourselves are unable or unwilling to do our part. Even in private, our jokes and asides carry the potential danger of hurting someone's feelings. And if this episode has taught us anything, it is that hurt feelings are the most important thing there is. Sticks and stones may break our bones, but names are an actionable offense.
And so we will vow to make no jokes about Asian drivers, cheap Jews and Mexicans selling oranges by the side of the freeway. In fact, such remarks will be reported, and offenders will lose their jobs - no matter how many years of service and charitable work they may have provided. That is what being accountable is all about.
But we're not done yet. For us to really change, we must examine the insensitivity in all things exclusionary:
How does Black History Month make Hispanic people feel?
Why can't Asian people go to the bank on Martin Luther King Day?
Why is there a BET, but no VET for Vietnamese people?
Are Jewish people offended by Shamrock Shakes?
Why is there no United Caucasian College Fund?
How can there be an NFL when Muslims are opposed to pigskin?
Sure, it will be a lot of work to rid ourselves of all our diferences. But slowly, we will make our society completely homogenized and flavorless; a bland, vanilla sludge where everyone is the same.
Where there are no individuals, there can be no discrimination.
Where there is no point of view, there can be no disagreement.
Where there is no freedom, there can be no trespass.
I know. It's a pipe dream.
But NBCUni is making it happen, one show at a time.
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