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    This is really getting out of hand.

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    NEW YORK — Six Muslim imams who were forcibily removed from a US Airways flight last year and are now suing the airline for discrimination may also be suing some passengers who were aboard the flight.

    In the lawsuit filed last week, the imams say that unnamed "John Doe" passengers at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport reported that they engaged in "suspicious" behavior — praying in the terminal — before they boarded the plane on Nov. 20.

    Omar Mohammedi, the imams' New York-based lawyer, said that the imams have not yet decided whether to pursue this complaint, but if they do it would affect only those passengers who were prejudiced in their suspicions.

    "I think there is a difference between someone reporting suspicious activity and someone making false reports about a fact that did not exist," Mohammedi said. "We are not saying that people should not report; we are saying people should not abuse that process just because someone was praying or someone looked religious."

    He said that if the passengers were suspicious based only on the imams' appearance, "then they should be liable . . . these people should be careful not to abuse the process and be responsible."

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    The lawsuit alleges that US Airways unlawfully removed the six imams from Flight 300 for discriminatory reasons based on race, religion, ethnicity, or other outside appearances when they tried to board a flight to Phoenix after attending a North American Imams Federation conference.

    Mohammedi said all six used credit cards to pay for round-trip tickets. US Airways says the imams used cash to buy one-way tickets.

    The lawsuit says US Airways has "falsely claimed" the imams' "suspicious" behavior, including saying "God is Great" in Arabic on the plane, talking about President Bush and Iraq and purchased one-way tickets with cash. Passengers also reported that some of the imams asked for seat belt extenders and switched seats.

    The suit says one of the imams was blind, and his friend asked another passenger if he would help him by switching seats. The passenger agreed, the suit says.

    According to the lawsuit, the same imam regularly requests a seatbelt extension when flying.

    The lawsuit also claims that a couple sitting behind some of the imams in the terminal were "purposely turning around to watch" them as they prayed, and that a "John Doe" then picked up his cell phone and made a call while he watched them pray.

    According to the lawsuit, police arrived at the scene after receiving a call from the airline. The imams were forced off the plane, searched, handcuffed and held against their will for hours without explanation. The imams claim they were questioned by the FBI about where they were from, whether they did anything out of the ordinary in the airport and whether they wanted to do harm to the president of the United States.

    "I'm not going to go after passengers who honestly thought they saw suspicious activity; however, I will not let go passengers who said something ... just because they didn't like the fact that an imam was praying," Mohammedi said.

    "I think the major irresponsible person here was the airline," he added.

    FOX News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said the imams have grounds against the passengers if they feel they were unjustly discriminated against.

    "Can you sue somebody for complaining about them? Yes. Will you prevail in that lawsuit? You will if there's a reasonable basis for your complaint," he said. "These imams turned out not to be terrorists, they had no weapons, they had no bombs. As far as we know, they had no plan to harm anybody, so the harm was illusionary."

    Napolitano said that if the case ever makes it to court, it will be up to a jury to decide whether the fears of the passengers who reported the "suspicious" behavior were founded, and whether the passengers were biased.

    Mohammedi said he understands the concern following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, especially given the fact that the terrorists were Middle Eastern, but he said there are ways to take security precautions and also make sure people's rights aren't violated.

    "We're all different, we all have our ignorance, we all have our prejudices, we all have our thing, but I think …the companies have to be responsible to find the balance [between] what they perceive to be lack of security and what is profiling … it's easy to discriminate against Muslims and Arabs and Asians on airlines," Mohammedi said.

    But "I think it's very important now to be sensitive to people … a lot of them [Muslims in the U.S.] are contributing citizens to this country and they do a lot for this country and they love this country. It should be everyone against terrorism, including the Muslims. However, if you're targeting Muslims that live in this country, then there's a problem."

    An internal probe by US Airways found there was no racial profiling in the incident.

    Calls to the U.S. Attorney's office in Minnesota were not returned Friday.
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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    The whole thing was planned by the imams....

    I'd bet a donut-hole to a dumbf*** on it.
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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    If they're shoeless, facing east, kneeling and bent over double and worshipping Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden and making a spectacle in an airport, they needed to have their a$ses kicked.

    Imams, praying in an airport is a likely sign of concern. Because they've been known to pray for success in blowing up airplanes.

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    And Christians have been known to pray for success in blowing up abortion clinics.

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane'bone
    And Christians have been known to pray for success in blowing up abortion clinics.
    yeah. good analogy there slick.

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    I think what he's trying to say is that zealots are zealots, no matter which God they're doing it for.
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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    ..and I wouldn't have a problem with abortion clinic bombers getting their a$$es kicked either.

    Because blowing up legitimate legal businesses is teh succ. Be it porn shops, abortion clinics, airlines, or investment brokerage firms conducting business 80 stories above Manhattan.

    I see a huge problem with taking out 3300 additional people with it. Hullo?

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    i'd imagine lots of Christians pray before flying

    some of them might mention Iraq or Bush too

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Yeah, but they haven't hijacked any planes into a building lately. If a group of Christians were removed from going into an abortion clinic because they were praying out front I wouldn't have a problem with it. I'd just blame the fools who did the stuff to cause the problem in the first place.

    The Muslims need to be mad at and blame the plane bombers.

    Anyway, flying is a priveledge, not a right. If you don't like the way they do business, drive.

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBoarder
    Yeah, but they haven't hijacked any planes into a building lately. If a group of Christians were removed from going into an abortion clinic because they were praying out front I wouldn't have a problem with it. I'd just blame the fools who did the stuff to cause the problem in the first place.

    The Muslims need to be mad at and blame the plane bombers.

    Anyway, flying is a priveledge, not a right. If you don't like the way they do business, drive.
    exactly

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    that's like saying that black dude should be mad at the black dudes that robbed liquor stores and caused him to get funny looks


    and that it's cool to kick one out of your liquor store for listening to rap music and talking to his friends outside

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom
    that's like saying that black dude should be mad at the black dudes that robbed liquor stores and caused him to get funny looks


    and that it's cool to kick one out of your liquor store for listening to rap music and talking to his friends outside

    No - you just have to have a big weapon in your liquor store, under the counter. Sort of like what we have with Air Marshalls.

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom
    that's like saying that black dude should be mad at the black dudes that robbed liquor stores and caused him to get funny looks


    and that it's cool to kick one out of your liquor store for listening to rap music and talking to his friends outside

    Aaaaaah man. Whats da world commin' to when a black man can't get his thang on and buy some malt liqour without gettin' kicked out the china man's store!

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by VeeJay
    No - you just have to have a big weapon in your liquor store, under the counter. Sort of like what we have with Air Marshalls.
    hey, if the Air Marshall wants to cap an imam when he actually starts some ****, then by all means cap the mother****er

    but Muslim doesn't equal terrorist, just like Christian doesn't equal nutjob

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom
    that's like saying that black dude should be mad at the black dudes that robbed liquor stores and caused him to get funny looks


    and that it's cool to kick one out of your liquor store for listening to rap music and talking to his friends outside
    That's what Bill Cosby says, isn't it? That's pretty much right. It's not right as in the way it should be, but that's pretty much the way it is.

    And, if that happened, should the black guy sue the store owner? Or should they just take their business elsewhere?

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBoarder
    That's what Bill Cosby says, isn't it? That's pretty much right. It's not right as in the way it should be, but that's pretty much the way it is.

    And, if that happened, should the black guy sue the store owner? Or should they just take their business elsewhere?
    it's not wrong to get freaked out, but i still don't think that should be applauded or the norm to act on it

    i don't think that is quite what Bill Cosby was saying. i think he was talking more about how black people should stop blaming other people about their problems, not that they should expect/accept getting discriminated against

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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    **** em if they cant take a joke and Joke em if they cant take a **** .
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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    For the record, I've prayed for the Rose Bowl/LA Coliseum to blow up two years in a row now.

    just saying.
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    Re: This is really getting out of hand.

    Quote Originally Posted by hurricane'bone
    And Christians have been known to pray for success in blowing up abortion clinics.
    And atheists have been known to torture and kill tens of millions.

    I have no idea what our point is, by the way.

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