I'm thinking about getting some type of full auto machine gun and possibly one with a silencer. The process to get one seems fairly straightforward and easy. Does anyone have any experience with this?
I'm thinking about getting some type of full auto machine gun and possibly one with a silencer. The process to get one seems fairly straightforward and easy. Does anyone have any experience with this?
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why?
if you have to ask that question, then no justification given will satisfy.Originally Posted by def_lazer_fc
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Hate to be the bearer of bad tidings bro, but "full auto" and "silencer" are pretty much mutually exclusive.
Anyhoo, go old school and get a repop Thompson sub-machine gun. Then, locate an amenable gunsmith to provide the essential modification. Presto, you got a functional chopper that will spew .45 ACP all day long.
http://www.auto-ordnance.com/ao_catalog.html
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.
"Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes
If I had $20k to spend on a toy a Tommy would be nice. Bruce I am not.
The MAC 10 can be fitted with a suppressor and is a select fire weapon.
I'm thinking a .22 would be just as fun and much easier on the wallet.
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I once fired a Thompson .45. It is an amazing firearm. The sound is a very stacatto that sounds like "SIX-TY-FIVE-DOL-LARS-PER-PULL."
A Mac 10 can be fitted with a flash suppressor. Not sure if it is amenable to a sound suppressor.
Contact a dealer with an appropriate Class license and be willing to register and pay the fed firearms tax and you are done.
You can also get a Ruger 10/22 with a 30 round banana clip and a trigger attachment that is basically a crank that rotates and gives a gatling gun effect. Not full auto but it is great fun.
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and good with ketchup.
I figured he had to be confusing "flash" or "recoil suppressor" with "silencer." I can't imagine how a silencer would work with a fully automatic firearm because all a "silencer" does is retard the muzzle velocity of the round to sub-sonic speed. That said, its baffling would quickly be shot away on an automatic weapon and would probably be pretty dangerous to the firer too.
Anyway, one of these days, I'd sure like to get me a licensed Tommy gun, despite the fact that shooting a hundred rounds of .45 ACP in a few seconds is a danged 'spensive pleasure.
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.
"Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes
If you can afford it, get a registered full-auto M-16
1) .223 (5.56 NATO) Ammo is still relatively cheap
2) The lower receiver on the AR-15 is the registered part, and on this particular design, there is very little 'wear and tear' during use. Thus, you could literally wear the barrel, bolt, and bolt-carrier out from firing thousands of rounds, and buy a new kit for $500 bucks, put your registered receiver on it and you're good to go for another 20 thousand rounds!
A registered M-16 reciever is going to cost about as much as a nice used car. Def lazer fc's politicians decided that only the rich should be able to afford machine guns back in 1986.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
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Because it p***es latte' drinking lefties like you off.
And good luck when you try and come get them.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Fred Bastiat
dude.......I'm a righty and I don't get it.
My understanding is(and I may be wrong), is that the Spec. Op's modified M4 can be fitted with a silencer. The key is using subsonic ammo.I figured he had to be confusing "flash" or "recoil suppressor" with "silencer." I can't imagine how a silencer would work with a fully automatic firearm because all a "silencer" does is retard the muzzle velocity of the round to sub-sonic speed. That said, its baffling would quickly be shot away on an automatic weapon and would probably be pretty dangerous to the firer too.
Anyway, one of these days, I'd sure like to get me a licensed Tommy gun, despite the fact that shooting a hundred rounds of .45 ACP in a few seconds is a danged 'spensive pleasure.
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AND selecting "semi" on the firing selector.
According to the training materials, troops are instructed only to use the silencer in full-auto as a last resort because it destroys it and can result in catastrophic failure in the receiver group, bolt assembly or barrel.
Frankly, I can't imagine things getting so bad that you would need to fire in full auto with the silencer affixed since obviously, the bad guys already know you're there.
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.
"Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes
its subjective. Just roll with it. I don't get how people become addicted to innerweb porn or gambling, but hey, vive la difference
"Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever they can. Point out to them how the nominal winner is often a real loser; in fees, expenses and waste of time." -- Abraham Lincoln, (1809-1865) Lawyer and President who saved the United States.
"Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes
I can't really see that big a need for full auto anyway - if you can't do enough damage to put down a target with a three-shot burst, you need a bigger weapon anyway.But hey, whatever.
... that's not food.
Aimed semi-auto rifle fire is more effective.I can't really see that big a need for full auto anyway - if you can't do enough damage to put down a target with a three-shot burst, you need a bigger weapon anyway.
Spraying full auto is more fun
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Fred Bastiat
Ah, here we go. The AK47. When you absolutely positively have to kill every mother****er in a room... accept no substitute
Kalishnikov...the most successful 'point and click' interface ever devised.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Fred Bastiat
Heh.
... that's not food.
Here's where I break with my liberal buddies...I love me some guns.
Someone mentioned getting a "registered" gun. Why would you do that on purpose and what exactly are the rules for full auto now?
FOPA- passed in 1986 - was benificial to gun owners in many ways, and did away with much of the federal gun control laws passed in 1968. However, at the last minute, a ban on full-auto machine guns was tacked on. At that time, a full-auto gun already required a $200 tax stamp and was registered under NFA . There was only 1 recorded murder with a legal full auto since the 1930's, but Congress felt compelled to add this law anyway. All legally held machine guns possessed prior to 1986 were 'grandfathered' in, and are still legal to purchase today. But as you can imagine, with a limited supply of F/A guns, the price on a registered F/A can be extremely high. An M-60 can go for over $100,000. Yeah, no kidding.
It is almost impossible to take a gun made after 1986 and convert it to full auto legally. You have to be a dealer to law enforcement or a manufacturer.
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Fred Bastiat
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