In exchange for oil, trade, and negotiations to "normalize" diplomatic ties with us.
so who believes em this time?
In exchange for oil, trade, and negotiations to "normalize" diplomatic ties with us.
so who believes em this time?
You forgot one of the other stipulations, which was buried in the fine print: They want to be tested to see if they are the father of Anna Nicole's child.
Originally Posted by SoonerBorn
I thought that was just a given. It's only logical right?
American diplomacy is stupid. We spend years saying we're not going to give you X, Y, and Z. Then, we give them X, Y, and Z...along with A through W. If Castro could live just a little longer, I'm sure someone would find a way to give Cuba a couple of seats in the U.S. House and let them vote on American legislation.
I rode in a car this morning with someone who forced me to listen to Mike Gallagher. What a fackin' dill hole that guy is. These knee-jerk anti-Hillary and anti-Obama people are as putrid as the knee-jerk anti-Bush people.
Newsflash to editorial writers and political commentators - we all already know that politicians suck. They all suck. It's no surprise. When I open a can of beans, there are going to be, surprise, beans in it. Why can't anyone have a serious debate without all the personal bullcrap?
You know what? Good for North Korea for screwing Bush they way they did Clinton. There's not a ball's hair worth of difference between the two of 'em. Except for a very small handful of politicians - Churchill, Reagan, and Thatcher - there have been no politicians who will just do what they feel right for the country without taking some crapas*s poll over the last 60+ years.
I'm going to feel very good about sitting out the elections in 2008. I look at the choices on both sides and think, "Crap, this is it? All America has to offer among 350 million people is this bucket of collective horse ****?"
Screw 'em. Cowards. Just give the bomb to Iran already, cap what white males can earn in a year, and get to the punchline. Stupid f'n as*sbadgers.
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"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
Yay for a nucular free Korean peninshula.
yup.
thing is, i kinda of like hillary... in a way. mostly because i think she's exceptionally intelligent. i also like obama. again, mostly because he's smart. sad thing is, they are still politicians.
and while he's slipped a little for me, i still like john mccain. we simply wouldn't be dealing with the crap we are right now - with iraq, iran, afghanistan, or north korea. he simply wouldn't stand for it. i remember an interview he gave a few years back - to whom, i don't know. he refered to the vietnamese people as "gooks". the interviewer asked if that was insensitive. mccain looked him in the eye, and said "i spent 7 years getting tortured by these people. i think i've earned the right to call them whatever i want." the interviewer shut up. he wasn't worried about offending anyone or hurting their feelings.
I don’t know if the block on that last one was due to low trajectory or if the guys up front didn’t hold their ground well enough. I’m not convinced it matters. We have every reason to believe the ball could have gone through the uprights and the refs would have signaled first down Oregon. - D.E.
Hell, that's how I've felt in the last two elections.
how has N. Korea screwed Bush......please explain
yup.
thing is, i kinda of like hillary... in a way. mostly because i think she's exceptionally intelligent. i also like obama. again, mostly because he's smart. sad thing is, they are still politicians.
I have a frat brother, who was an aid to a Senator who was on one of Hillary's committees. From what he saw, she isn't that smart. She has great sound bites, but that's about it.
So who all is in on the republican side? Gulliani and McCain? Is that it?
They'll abide by it just enough to get what they want, and in a few years, they'll break it to force a renegotiation. Nothing new.
Bush didn't create this situation, this is all Bubbas doing.
He was the one sending his officials over to sip the bubbly with one of the worst dicatators in world history all the while feeding them nuke technology that they probably already sold to some terrorist group.
WTF did they think was going to happen????!?!??
Mitt Romney and then a bunch of spares
if she's not smart, i fear for our future. as of right now, i'll take anyone with an IQ over 100.
I don’t know if the block on that last one was due to low trajectory or if the guys up front didn’t hold their ground well enough. I’m not convinced it matters. We have every reason to believe the ball could have gone through the uprights and the refs would have signaled first down Oregon. - D.E.
hillary is at best a socialist.....
Yep. And I think this answers jk's question above. DPRK hasn't screwed Bush - yet. When they decide to break this agreement, you'll be able to say Bush got screwed.
Wow! I think they broke their own record.Just hours after announcing the agreement — which clearly states North Korea must "shut down and seal for the purpose of eventual abandonment the Yongbyon nuclear facility, including the reprocessing facility" — Pyongyang issued a statement claiming it had agreed only to a "temporary suspension" of its nuclear program.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251618,00.html
Bush has stayed away from negotiating with North Korea....he's forced the hands of the chinese and other neighboring nations to deal with it.......and now Kim Jung Il is buckling, he's giving in.......he's asking for energy, nothing has been promised to him, but he's making concessions he hasnt made before
will he withdraw and start the charade all over again? probably so, he's a lunatic, but at least he's shown his true hand to the world
sounds like a foreign policy victory to me, i'm sure others will disagree
Agreed Framework II...I'll disagree on the victory part. Wouldn't give them diddly squat and unification needs to be addressed. They can put their "normalization" idea up their rears.
Yeah, like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g
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