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    9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/cp_w011633A.xml.html

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A federal appeals court on Tuesday vacated the sentence of "millennium bomber" Ahmed Ressam, who was arrested near the U.S.-Canadian border and convicted of plotting to bomb Los Angeles International Airport at the turn of the millennium.

    Ressam was arrested in December 1999 In Port Angeles, Wash., when he drove off a ferry from British Columbia with a trunk full of explosives. Prosecutors said he was intent on bombing the airport on the eve of the millennium.

    He was sentenced to 22 years in prison after being convicted of all nine charges. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco reversed his conviction on one of the charges and sent the case back to a lower court judge to issue a new sentence and explain the rationale behind the original 22-year term.

    The decision does not necessarily mean the defendant will get a shorter term, as federal prosecutors said the original sentence was too light and judges are given wide latitude to sentence defendants as they see fit.
    This could turn out to be yet another overturned ruling from the 9th. They are absolutely nuts.

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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    The decision does not necessarily mean the defendant will get a shorter term, as federal prosecutors said the original sentence was too light and judges are given wide latitude to sentence defendants as they see fit.
    and you saw where they were only reversing 1 of the 9 charges right?
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    I wonder if they would have ruled the same if he tried to bomb their courthouse.
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    The lower court should sentence him to more. That'd be a kicker.

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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfield
    and you saw where they were only reversing 1 of the 9 charges right?
    You know what's funny? As I was posting that, I thought "If Hatfield or one of the other resident lefties is around, he'll somehow try to make this idiot court look normal." Seriously.

    What difference does it make? All that means is that that was the only 1 they had any chance of getting thrown out. The other 8 must've been so rock-solid that even they couldn't weasel this guy out of it.

    You also realize that the 9th is the most overturned appeals court in the nation. There is a reason for this and it ain't because they get all the most difficult cases.

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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    I'm glad to see all the SO lawyers have taken the time to read the court's decision so they could offer all this insightful commentary.
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    not trying to make them look normal. everyone agrees they are the farthest out there.

    just pointing out that you are needlessly freaking out.
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfield
    not trying to make them look normal. everyone agrees they are the farthest out there.

    just pointing out that you are needlessly freaking out.
    That wasn't freaking out.


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    i stand corrected.
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    Just speculating here because I haven't seen the decision yet (like the rest of y'all, but I admit it ): In these multi-count cases, the Gubment sometimes just sorta "forgets" to prove each and every element of one of a lesser charges. That could be what happened. The 8 remaining convictions will probably add up to the original sentence with ease.

    Wait til the 9th actually DOES something stupid before getting all frothy at the mouth.
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    The decision does not necessarily mean the defendant will get a shorter term, as federal prosecutors said the original sentence was too light and judges are given wide latitude to sentence defendants as they see fit.
    you guys not read this part?

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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom
    you guys not read this part?
    you not read post #2?
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by TUSooner
    Just speculating here because I haven't seen the decision yet (like the rest of y'all, but I admit it ): In these multi-count cases, the Gubment sometimes just sorta "forgets" to prove each and every element of one of a lesser charges. That could be what happened. The 8 remaining convictions will probably add up to the original sentence with ease.

    Wait til the 9th actually DOES something stupid before getting all frothy at the mouth.
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    What would be funny is if the lower court re-did the sentencing and made it longer


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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    I caught a bit of Michael Savage going lunatic-y on this on the way home tonight.
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk
    What would be funny is if the lower court re-did the sentencing and made it longer


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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    The 9th Circuit is the most liberal court in America. They're gonna let this guy off easy.

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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    IMHO, Federal Sentencing Guidelines as enacted by Congress represent an unconstitutional violation of the separation of powers. But that's just me, the Supremes have ruled otherwise.

    Anyhoo, as others have pointed out, this is not a huge deal. Seems to moi the 9CA has not overturned the conviction, they are only asking for enhanced justification for the sentence in order to ascertain whether it is in accordance with those blasted sentencing guidelines.
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    Quote Originally Posted by Okla-homey
    IMHO, Federal Sentencing Guidelines as enacted by Congress represent an unconstitutional violation of the separation of powers. But that's just me, the Supremes have ruled otherwise.

    Anyhoo, as others have pointed out, this is not a huge deal. Seems to moi the 9CA has not overturned the conviction, they are only asking for enhanced justification for the sentence in order to ascertain whether it is in accordance with those blasted sentencing guidelines.
    Actually... the Supremes have said (in Booker) that MANDATORY sentencing guidelines are UNconstitutional. So now the guidelines are "advisory," and the sentence need only be "reasonable." For most district courts it's mostly business as usual. The Supremes are soon to decide whether a sentence in accord with the advisory guidelines is presumed to be reasonable; they may also decide how far from the guidelines you can get until the sentence is unreasonable. I'm gonna see if the Niners' decision is up on WL now.
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    Re: 9th circuit court of appeals at it again

    Savage is still on the radio? wow...surprising....his schtick got old faster than gdc's.....i read one of his books and put it down about half way thru....never before have i felt like i was being screamed at by an author

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