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    Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    OMG. I cannot believe this. Nifong must be the worst prosecutor in the history of jurisprudence. He's bound and determined to press this thing through and apparently doesn't even know why.

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/27/D8L15CTO0.html

    The district attorney prosecuting three Duke lacrosse players accused of raping a woman at a team party said during a court hearing Friday that he still hasn't interviewed the accuser about the facts of the case.

    "I've had conversations with (the accuser) about how she's doing. I've had conversations with (the accuser) about her seeing her kids," Mike Nifong said. "I haven't talked with her about the facts of that night. ... We're not at that stage yet."


    Nifong made the statement in response to a defense request for any statements the woman has made about the case.

    "I understand the answer may not be the answer they want but it's the true answer. That's all I can give them," the prosecutor said after the hourlong hearing.

    Defense lawyers said outside court that they found Nifong's statement surprising.

    "One of the most interesting things to me of course is Mr. Nifong did admit that he in fact has basically never talked to this woman and has absolutely no idea what her story is, and yet he has chosen to continue to go forward with this case," defense lawyer Joseph Cheshire said.

    Nifong said none of his assistants have discussed the case with the woman either and only have spoken with her to monitor her well-being. They have left the investigation of the case to police, he said.

    Attorneys for indicted player Dave Evans wrote in a letter to Nifong earlier this month that they believed he had talked with the accuser based on a court motion in which Nifong stated the woman told him she had not taken the drug Ecstasy on the night of the March 13 team party for which she was hired to perform as a stripper.

    In response to a claim by a lawyer for an unindicted player, Nifong said he called the accuser to ask her whether she had used the drug.

    "She said, 'I've never taken Ecstasy,'" Nifong said. "That was the extent of the conversation because that's all I had to know."

    Nifong said he met with the accuser and an investigator on April 11, but didn't discuss details of the case because the woman was "too traumatized." Nifong said the woman didn't make eye contact with him and often seemed on the verge of crying. Their discussion centered around how the case would develop, he said.

    "She probably did not speak 15 words during the meeting," Nifong said.

    Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md., was charged in May with rape, kidnapping and sexual offense. A month earlier, a grand jury indicted players Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 20, of Garden City, N.Y., on the same charges. The accuser, a student at nearby North Carolina Central University, told police she was raped in a bathroom by three men at the off-campus party.

    The players' lawyers have strongly proclaimed their innocence.
    If these people are guilty, I hope they get what's coming to them. However, it seems like most of the evidence thus far is in the defendants' favor. This is really sounding a lot like a prosecutor trying to make a name for himself.

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    What, a government prosecutor playing fast and loose with the facts...say it ain't so. Cept' this dirtbag ain't playing fast cause he has no case.

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    I have no idea what to think of this. The instinct is to pile on the accused, but nothing's really come out about the case. I guess this is why.
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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    60 Minutes interviewed the other stripper that was there that night and she pretty much disputed everything that the victim said happened.

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Well, if 60 minutes said it...


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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    And wasn't one of the alleged perps recorded on an ATM's camera at the time of the alleged rape?
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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Quote Originally Posted by NormanPride
    Well, if 60 minutes said it...

    60 Minutes said nothing.....the co-stripper did.

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    It's my duty to post in a thread that mentions strippers. Carry on.
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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    They're not at the stage of discussing the case, but the DA has already made up his mind?

    When the end justifies the means...
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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    For some reason I thought the case against the players had been dismissed months ago for lack of evidence and/or an ironclad alibi.

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerInKCMO
    And wasn't one of the alleged perps recorded on an ATM's camera at the time of the alleged rape?
    Maybe not on camera... but a receipt and an eye-witness.

    http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCente...1858806&page=1


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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    I am that this is even still a news story.

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjcpr
    60 Minutes said nothing.....the co-stripper did.
    Well, if a stripper said so...
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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    March 13th party? and it is now almost November? That's almost 8 damn months. And most people have extremely ****ty memories. By which I mean, often if you ask someone to repeat to you EXACTLY what someone said to them even three days ago, they get parts wrong. 8 months later, you'll be lucky to get anything even resembling what actually happened.

    I think his 8 month delay on interviewing the alleged victim is not just bad procedure, it's a chance for the "victim" to figure out some sort of story that might hold up under scrutiny. And if she hasn't by now, I'm going to go ahead and call bull**** on the whole thing.
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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    he's gettin' close to an ethics complaint.

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Quote Originally Posted by NormanPride
    Well, if a stripper said so...
    Isn't the accusser also a stripper?

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Man, I was pretty mad after watching the 60 Minutes interview. One of the accused has his picture taken at an ATM at the time of the rape, miles away. The others say thay have similar evidence that they weren't there. The DA bypassed normal procedure to get an indictment and the police used questionable tactics to identify them. There's no way any case against them will stand up in court as far as I can see.

    Of couse, the indictment will likely help the DA get re-elected...

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Did he get his start as an assistant DA in Cleveland County?
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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Quote Originally Posted by Fugue
    he's gettin' close to an ethics complaint.
    Lawyers have eithics?

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    Re: Duke rape prosecutor hasn't even talked with the "victim"

    Quote Originally Posted by GrapevineSooner
    They're not at the stage of discussing the case, but the DA has already made up his mind?

    When the end justifies the means...
    The DA (a true ********* and ****** rocket!) will drag this out until after the election and then declare he has no case or that it can't be tried or can't convict and drop the charges...

    This has all been about getting re-elected.
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