Page 1 of 9 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 167

Thread: not guilty :(

  1. #1

    not guilty :(

    the jury in houston decides that andrea yates is not guilty by reason of insanity

    what a tragedy.......

  2. #2
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member slickdawg's Avatar
    Location
    667 Neighbor of the Beast
    Posts
    6,142
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    see, six rounds years ago, and we wouldn'r be having this day of disgust.

  3. #3
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 OhU1's Avatar
    Location
    Lawton week /Norman weekends
    Posts
    2,187
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    See seemed pretty crazy to me. Harris County is not exactly liberal on the death penalty either.
    "Democracy without respect for individual rights sucks. It's just ganging up against the weird kid, and I'm always the weird kid.."
    Penn Jillette

  4. #4
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Sooner_Bob's Avatar
    Location
    North of Waterloo
    Posts
    19,113
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    so depression is a form of insanity now?

  5. #5
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Penguin's Avatar
    Location
    Bourbon Rouge, LA
    Posts
    8,533
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Do you honestly think she was in her right mind when she killed her kids?
    Quote Originally Posted by proud gonzo
    you're weird

  6. #6
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member 1stTimeCaller's Avatar
    Location
    here and there
    Posts
    13,427
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin
    Do you honestly think she was in her right mind when she killed her kids?
    is anyone in their right mind when they murder another person?

    She chased her kids around the house and then methodically drowned them one at a time in the bath tub.

    She f***ing chased her kids around the house, caught them, took them to the bathroom some probably kicking and screaming, and drowned them.
    one day

  7. #7

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin
    Do you honestly think she was in her right mind when she killed her kids?
    is anybody in their right mind when they commit murder?

    the definition of insanity is whether she knew at the time that what she did was wrong.

    the DA gave 60 instances and examples showing that she knew what she did was wrong, as well as a forensic psychiatrist that testified she wasnt "insane"

    mental illness does not always equate to insanity

  8. #8
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Sooner_Bob's Avatar
    Location
    North of Waterloo
    Posts
    19,113
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin
    Do you honestly think she was in her right mind when she killed her kids?

    ummm no . . . but if being labeled as depressed now leads to a possible not guilty by reason of insanity verdict we're all screwed.

  9. #9
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Penguin's Avatar
    Location
    Bourbon Rouge, LA
    Posts
    8,533
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by 1stTimeCaller
    She chased her kids around the house and then methodically drowned them one at a time in the bath tub.

    She f***ing chased her kids around the house, caught them, took them to the bathroom some probably kicking and screaming, and drowned them.

    From what I understand, she thought that she was saving their souls.


    Sounds pretty kookoo to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by proud gonzo
    you're weird

  10. #10
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Sooner_Bob's Avatar
    Location
    North of Waterloo
    Posts
    19,113
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by jk the sooner fan

    mental illness does not always equate to insanity

    and this ladies and gents was my point . . .

  11. #11

    Re: not guilty :(

    the problem, and i saw this in my previous job, is that 'normal' people have a hard time understanding "how could she do that"

    and since they cant answer it, they equate that to "crazy"


    its good that you cant "understand" how she could do that, it means your normal (for the most part) but it doesnt mean she's criminally insane

    she'll get her final judgement day, of that i'm sure - thats the only one that matters

  12. #12

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin
    From what I understand, she thought that she was saving their souls.


    Sounds pretty kookoo to me.
    and the forensic shrink said he didnt believe that, but that she just couldnt cope with being a bad mother

  13. #13
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member
    Location
    Norman
    Posts
    5,999
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by 1stTimeCaller
    is anyone in their right mind when they murder another person?
    Actually, yes, lots of people are. They may be bad, bad people, but that doesn't mean they're insane.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1stTimeCaller
    She chased her kids around the house and then methodically drowned them one at a time in the bath tub.

    She f***ing chased her kids around the house, caught them, took them to the bathroom some probably kicking and screaming, and drowned them.
    I know a few people with schitzophrenia; while in one of their "episodes", they can be violent, but once their doctors find the right treatment, they are perfectly normal, well adjusted decent people.

    Do you toss someone in jail, or execute them just because they have the misfortune of having a biological chemical imbalance?

    I don't know if Yates herself was really insane at the time, but I do know that it's not reasonable to hold a truly insane person responsible for their actions like you would a sane person.

  14. #14
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member
    Location
    Wishing I was moving to Monroe, Oklahoma...
    Posts
    11,182
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Best outcome I can think of!! She is mentally ill, had been shuttled between treatment options due to insurance coverage (or lack of), The husband may not have been the best person, but he did appear to provide the best treatment for her he could. Insurance limitations on mental health treatment was problematic. Now she will get the treatment she needs, rather than the spotty treatment she would have been given in prison.

    Sad for the little children, but after living through a similar experience with an Aunt, I truly believe she was not mentally fully aware and should get treatment not prison. The real meaning is she will most likely be locked away for a very long time and have to deal with what she did.
    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.

  15. #15
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Penguin's Avatar
    Location
    Bourbon Rouge, LA
    Posts
    8,533
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner_Bob
    ummm no . . . but if being labeled as depressed now leads to a possible not guilty by reason of insanity verdict we're all screwed.




    Thanks for the opinion, Mr. Cruise.
    Quote Originally Posted by proud gonzo
    you're weird

  16. #16
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Penguin's Avatar
    Location
    Bourbon Rouge, LA
    Posts
    8,533
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Quote Originally Posted by jk the sooner fan
    and the forensic shrink said he didnt believe that, but that she just couldnt cope with being a bad mother

    I know 12 people in downtown Houston who disagree.
    Quote Originally Posted by proud gonzo
    you're weird

  17. #17
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member GrapevineSooner's Avatar
    Location
    In a House...watching House
    Posts
    10,223
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    You can be mentally ill, but still be able to tell right from wrong.

    I think Andrea Yates knew what she was doing was wrong.
    Just imagine there's a really obnoxious graphical sig here

  18. #18
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 etouffee's Avatar
    Location
    Over the hills and far away
    Posts
    3,586
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    of course she did. there was ample evidence to demonstrate she knew what she did was wrong at the time she did it.
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Oh yeah? Well OUR coach eats GRASS. Does yours? Yeah, I didn't think so.
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    Absurdity is the only reality. - Frank Zappa
    ------------------------------------------------------------

  19. #19
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 OhU1's Avatar
    Location
    Lawton week /Norman weekends
    Posts
    2,187
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Whether the jury was correct or not they found that she did not understand the nature of the act she was committing. That she lacked the mental capacity to commit the crime charged. That is way beyond the standard of merely being mentally ill. To convince me of such a mental state you would have to show me that the killer literally didn't know they were doing anything wrong. That they took no steps to conceal the act or escape detection. For example the killer is found having a tea party with his victims on the front porch in the middle of the day waving at passing cars.
    "Democracy without respect for individual rights sucks. It's just ganging up against the weird kid, and I'm always the weird kid.."
    Penn Jillette

  20. #20
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Sooner in Tampa's Avatar
    Location
    Tampa, Florida, United States
    Posts
    7,886
    vCash
    500

    Re: not guilty :(

    Another victory for the treehugging, lovey dovey liberals in this country who hate the death penalty.


    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Beanbag View Post
    Six stitches is a pretty decent sized gash.
    Quote Originally Posted by OUthunder View Post
    To hell with Nebraska...they are overrated and irrelevant.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •