He takes our oil fields, we take his CITGO refineries, overthrow him, and install a puppet government.
I think thats more than a fair deal considering the amount of oil that we depend on comes from there.
And just cause its tubanip, I'll post this as well.
From the hero of the left...
http://www.payvand.com/news/06/may/1117.htmlome, May 12, IRNA-Visiting Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said in Rome on Thursday in case of a military attack against Iran, no country in the world would have access to crude oil.
Chavez made the remark at a press conference, adding, “As Iran’s President Ahmadinejad has reiterated, if Tehran would come under attack, oil would get scarce for everyone.”
He also said that the US President George W. Bush should be put to trial at the international court of justice for having launched genocide in Iraq. “For all the horror it has created around the globe in the course of the past century, the United States’ war machine should be dismantled, since under the current conditions it is a threat against the entire mankind, particularly against our children.”
Chavez added, “The North American empire is the most cruel murderer regime that has ever come to power in world history and a serious threat for all nations.”
He believes the death of the United States had better taken place in the course of the 21st century, because “otherwise the entire world would face the threat of annihilation.”
I can't wait until he is "elected" El Presidente for life!
Originally Posted by OklahomaTuba
totally. **** this sovereign nation bull****.
That chihuahua can bark all he wants but when the big dog is hungry the big dog will eat and chihuahua may be on the menu.
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KC the Hugo fan. Why am I not surprised?
Seems the person who has problems with sovereign nations & their assets & investments in his nation is your comrad Hugo.
I wouldn't care if it was corn fields that Chavez "nationalized". Someone starts stealing US assets, its time call the B-52s and 101st in. End of discussion.
Speak softly and carry a big stick.
Originally Posted by OklahomaTuba
pitiful ad hominem response. where exactly do i say i'm a Hugo fan.....show me. you are incapable of seeing anything objectively.....any criticism you perceive as the negation of your very narrow/absurdly righteous worldview. this is evidenced in that raising a question about the soveriegnty of nations....de facto means i love Hugo Chavez.
you're the hypocrite because you have different rules for the sovereignty of the US versus other nations. i'm not going to do the work for you. good luck.
Your sovereignty to swing your arm ends when it hits my nose.
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Originally Posted by jacru
explain Iraq in those terms.
What did they teach you in history and civics classes in high school and junior high that makes you so sympathetic to tyrants such as Chavez?Originally Posted by King Crimson
Ironic, isn't it?Originally Posted by King Crimson
Chavez takes US assets, and its OK.
US then takes Chaves assets, and thats bad!
How hypocritical of me to think this way. We should just allow Chavez to steal from US companies, and then bend us over and let him starve this nation of the energy it needs. What a great plan you have there KC.
The national interests of your own country don't even enter your mind, do they King? I wonder how it feels to live with ones head so deeply burried in the sand every day.
If you assert you are going to hit my nose.....Originally Posted by King Crimson
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Cease fire treaty broken. UN resoltions broken. Support for terrorism and Bin Laden. Attempted assassination of former US leaders, threats and action against our allies, genocide against their own people, corrupting the UN, etc etc etc...Originally Posted by King Crimson
Originally Posted by OklahomaTuba
So, the US has a right to the natural resources of another country, that's what you are saying.....amid the continuingly pitiful ad hominem attacks.
i'm not really in the mood for this on otherwise pleasant saturday afternoon. i played a part in starting it....you guys really need to get over the ad hominem attacks when someone disagrees with you.
it's real knee-jerk. it's obvious there's a long list of premises that you guys take as fact....and i think are questionable when it comes to the current administration. so be it. OK?
KC
ad hominem attacks? more like ad hominem observations.
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i like to think that the range of things i've learned extended beyond high school and jr. high history (?) and civics classes.Originally Posted by william favor
Speaking of Ad Hominem.Originally Posted by King Crimson
Who said the US had a right to anything? I wonder, when you buy something, don't you kind of expect to keep it without someone coming along and stealing it? Obviously not it seems.
I'll make this rather simple for you, since you aren't "getting" it.
This is not about the rights of Venezuala, this is about the FACT that American companies have made large investments in Venezuala to buy what they had for sale, and now this communist thug you are defending comes in and steals those assets.
Sorry if you don't see anything wrong with that, but that is stealing.
If the Venezualens didn't want US investment, then they shouldn't have accepted it in the first place.
The bank must have a "right" to your money. After all, it's in their bank.
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