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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner04
    I'll tell you this, if we'd beaten Indiana and lost to Kansas in the Finals............well, I'd probably still be in the Georgia Penal System.
    heh

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by CtheB
    there aren't a whole lot of people wanting to take their seat.
    I want to take their seat. I just don't have the money yet.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by LSUdeek
    There is 1 player currently starting on this team that started in the NIT matchup in 2004. One other is coming off of the bench and the other that even played at all is redshirting this year (medical).
    Yeah, since Bookout was hurt then I don't remember anyone on OU's roster now playing in that game. The home crowd was good for that game though, I will say that.

    I don't like the way the tickets are done now but I also would like to see more fans at the games, myself included, even though I'm 3 1/2 hours away. I don't buy the excuse that a 32-37 NBA team is taking away all OU's potential fans in a metro area of over 750,000. I liked the old practice of at the tipoff or shortly after all seats below were fair game. Ultimately though the program like any other wants to make more $.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by CtheB
    stud, I used to be one of those 12000 people, buying the season tickets and making the donations. Then at some point, I decided that it wasn't worth the money or the time anymore, so I stopped. Unless you're offering something to bring people in they aren't going to come, and that's not me talking, it's the six to seven thousand empty seats most games getting in their say.

    Some may call us "bad fans" or "unjustified" in our expectations, but I offer this question, would you go and pay premium rates for anything that doesn't appeal to you? Would you pay extra for a car you don't enjoy driving? Would you pay primetime prices to go see a bad movie? Probably not.

    Then I ask, if you did make the mistake once, would you do it again?

    This is just how I feel.

    Let's just say this, the attrition of attendance didn't happen overnight, they are fans that just stopped enjoying Oklahoma basketball over time and obviously are the majority, because as they leave, there aren't a whole lot of people wanting to take their seat.
    I am one of those 12,000 for games I can go to (I live in Edmond and I can drive but homework/church on Wednesdays has to be placed over OU-Prairie View A&M or whatever). I bet if we land a good, uptempo coach you'll be back.
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    I may be wrong but it seems as if we may have gone for a fake PAT once since I've been at Baylor. Although I may have just been drunk and playing Xbox.
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    Back off of Bob (Barry, Sr.). He's drank more beer, pissed more blood and banged more quiff than all of you numnut's put together.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by OUstud
    I am one of those 12,000 for games I can go to (I live in Edmond and I can drive but homework/church on Wednesdays has to be placed over OU-Prairie View A&M or whatever). I bet if we land a good, uptempo coach you'll be back.

    you know something, you're probably right.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by Cam
    Great, now I've got my own freaking stalker.
    So, telling you that your expectations are too high is the same as "stalking". Wow. Just ... wow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cam
    You're still ****ed about the cost of living debate, huh? Ever figure out what areas are included when they say Oklahoma City? Didn't think so.
    That was you? Yeah, *I* am the stalker here.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Boy this thread has taken a U-turn.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    No, it flipped a beyotch.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoop Dawg
    So, telling you that your expectations are too high is the same as "stalking". Wow. Just ... wow.
    You have every right to have low expectations in life. You have zero right to expect others to have the same standards such as yourself. Complacency , period.

    That was you? Yeah, *I* am the stalker here.
    Yeah, I'm the one suffering from idocy.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoop Dawg
    So, telling you that your expectations are too high is the same as "stalking". Wow. Just ... wow.



    That was you? Yeah, *I* am the stalker here.
    The funny thing about this is that I've stated repeatedly that all I want is program progression, period.

    Let's look at KS' 12 years and the previous 12 years:

    Exhibit A:
    Avg W's: 25
    Avg L's: 9
    Avg # of games: 34
    Win %: 74.57%

    Exhibit B:
    Avg W's: 23
    Avg L's: 9
    Avg # of games: 32
    Win %: 71.91%

    In case you don't want to take the less than 5 minutes it would take to find out which is which, exhibit B is Sampson's tenure.

    No matter how you define it, that's not progression.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by Cam
    The funny thing about this is that I've stated repeatedly that all I want is program progression, period.

    Let's look at KS' 12 years and the previous 12 years:

    Exhibit A:
    Avg W's: 25
    Avg L's: 9
    Avg # of games: 34
    Win %: 74.57%

    Exhibit B:
    Avg W's: 23
    Avg L's: 9
    Avg # of games: 32
    Win %: 71.91%

    In case you don't want to take the less than 5 minutes it would take to find out which is which, exhibit B is Sampson's tenure.

    No matter how you define it, that's not progression.
    That's cool. Hey, how about we compare all the coaches at OU?

    http://www.soonerstats.com/bb/coaches/index.cfm

    Kelvin Sampson 1995-2006 279-109 71.9%
    Billy Tubbs 1981-1994 333-132 71.6%
    Dave Bliss 1976-1980 76-52 59.4%
    Hmmm, interesting.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Hard Corn Frog
    I don't buy the excuse that a 32-37 NBA team is taking away all OU's potential fans in a metro area of over 750,000.
    The OKC metro area is actually about 1.25 mil peeps now. Tulsa is about 850,000. Together U-Tulsa and Oral Roberts drew about the same attendance per game as OU did last season according to the NCAA.
    (~11,500) OU is actually ahead of some pretty well known programs.

    http://www.ncaa.org/stats/m_basketba...all_attend.pdf

    I'm sure the numbers the NCAA uses are for paid attendance though.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    Quote Originally Posted by als12179
    The OKC metro area is actually about 1.25 mil peeps now. Tulsa is about 850,000. Together U-Tulsa and Oral Roberts drew about the same attendance per game as OU did last season according to the NCAA.
    (~11,500) OU is actually ahead of some pretty well known programs.

    http://www.ncaa.org/stats/m_basketba...all_attend.pdf

    I'm sure the numbers the NCAA uses are for paid attendance though.

    The NCAA uses the numbers OU gives them which is tickets sold not butts in seats.

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    How many wins per year do you want? Crappy fan support with consistent 22to 24 wins per year....

    I don't think the product is the problem.

    7 losses in football is not acceptable. Understand the difference between the sports?

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    Re: Like Two Ships Passing in the Night........

    We're all so glad you took the time to register.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerX
    We're all so glad you took the time to register.
    heh

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