Unlike in football. I've given the stat that from 1947-1982 that we've had one NCAA Appearance and 2 NITs. But if you take out the last 2 great coaches that's 4 NCAA Apearances and 2 NIT appearances.
If you fire Kelvin Sampson guys get your way I doubt we have a coach that's half as good he is. Good coaching is just hard to come by for basketball.
Oh and if you don't believe me without Oklahoma State's best 2 coaches(Iba and Sutton) they have 1 NCAA and 2 NIT appearances all time.
this could get interesting.
But Billy Tubbs once went to a National Championship game!!!!!!! The GREATEST coach EVAR!!!!!!
Re: Great coaching is hard to get for OU BBall
fixed it for youOriginally Posted by frou
Nick
I can't bring myself to say that I totally agree with you, especially given the fact that you mentioned football and you are way off base with Stoops. But, I don't totally disagree with you either so that is something.
I don't know that it Sampson leaves that we don't get a coach just as good or better but I do agree the chances are better that we don't.
Feel free to print this out and frame it Nick. This is a big day for you.
Why all the Kelvin hate?
If we are bashing Kelvin let's do it for soemthing he deserves (i.e. potential probation)
Fact is, the last 5 years we have:
NCAA Tourney
NCAA 2nd round
NIT
Elite 8
Final Four
I bet not too many schools can claim 8 NCAA wins in the past 5 years. (Outside of National Champions) Fact is, we underachieved big time this year. But I would say most of Kelvin's teams have actually overachieved (especially some of his teams the 1st 5 years). So I am going to give him a passs on this year.
Does anyone here doubt that if Kelvin stays another 10 years that we see another Final Four? I don't.
The potential probation is my main concern. I think it could saboatage what could be a potentially very good team in the next 2-3 years. I hope any penalties are minor and KS stays though I do acknowledge that not all the complaints are without merit.
The standards for basketball shouldn't be as high for football. Football we should be competing for championships ever year. If we had the same standards for football as every other sport that we have at OU then we wouldn't have very many coaches for a long period of time. The only year least productive then this year over the past 5 years was the 2003-2004 season when we had 7 guys practicing some of that season
When it comes to bball, Nick has lowered expectations.Dear Lord, I don't think I understood any of that.
Fixed
Right Nick, that is why we paste Bomar- and TE gets busted with a QP and we don't even say a damn word that Kelvin let him play knowing damn well he would test postive for MaryJane-
You guys make complete sense to me- Kelvin is not lighting the world on fire-is he a bad coach- no. I just don't see Kelvin as a prodigy like the rest of ya- and he is starting to make some dumb decisions.
belch.
The first thing I said was he shouldn't have played. What we don't know is, did the AD know before the game on thursday.
Sometimes I think I drink alot, then I see, like, the Motley Crüe behind the music, and realize I'm a huge *****.
I don't know- you would have to think so- but I will be willing to give benefit of the doubt- but if you think about how fast we heard about Bomar- that getting busted with a brick of dubie that they definitely knew about it. They had 5 days to find out.
Agreed.
I don't know whether or not they found out about it. I have no idea. They did have 5 days, but those are probably the 5 most hectic days of the athletic department's year (making hotel and transportation arrangements for both men's and women's teams, media and donors).
The weird part is that the story didn't come out for so long.
Great coaching is hard to get for OU BBall?
I bet the athletic department has some money to spend that says otherwise.
Nickzeppelin is off the scale retarded.......one retarded dude.
The mods need to change his username. It sickens me that Led Zeppelin is associated with him.
I wouldn't oppose NickLeppard.
Last edited by william_brasky; 3/20/2006 at 08:58 PM.
How about Nick Rivers....of Top Secret fame.
Nick would give his left arm to play in Def Leppard.....
Uh....sorry....
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