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    Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    February 21, 1828 Cherokee receive their first printing press

    On this day 178 years ago, the first printing press designed to use the newly invented Cherokee alphabet arrives at New Echota, Georgia.


    In NW Georgia near present day Calhoon, New Echota is now maintained as a Georgia State Park.

    The General Council of the Cherokee Nation had purchased the press with the goal of producing a Cherokee-language newspaper. The press itself, however, would have been useless had it not been for the extraordinary work of a young Cherokee called Sequoyah, who invented a Cherokee alphabet.



    "Sequoyah," or George Guess (or Gist), was born the son of a white Virginian fur trader and the daughter of a Cherokee chief in the village of Tuskegee, Tennessee. He and his mother were abandoned by the father, and his mother left to raise him herself.

    Early in life he worked as a silversmith, and also served with the Cherokee regiment in 1813-14 against the Creek Redsticks and fought under Andrew Jackson. He never learned either how to speak English nor how to write anything in it more than his own name, but he did recognize and appreciate the influence and profound usefulness of the written word.

    In dealing with the white soldiers and settlers, he became intrigued by their "talking leaves"-printed books that he realized somehow recorded human speech.

    In a leap of logic, Sequoyah comprehended the basic nature of symbolic representation of sounds and in 1809 began working on a similar system for the Cherokee language.

    Ridiculed and misunderstood by most of the Cherokee, Sequoyah made slow progress until he came up with the idea of representing each syllable in the language with a separate written character. By 1821, he had perfected his syllabary of 86 characters, a system that Cherokee speakers of average intelligence could master in less than week.



    After obtaining the official endorsement of the Cherokee leadership, Sequoyah's invention was soon adopted throughout the Cherokee nation. When the Cherokee-language printing press arrived on this day in 1828, the lead type was based on Sequoyah's syllabary. Within months, the first Indian language newspaper in history appeared in New Echota, Georgia. It was called the Cherokee Phoenix.




    Sequoyah developed Cherokee numerals as well, but they were not adopted by the tribal government. This listing of numbers actually written by Sequoyah himself is from the Gilcrease Museum in Tulsa. You can probably make out the lightly written arabic numbers beneath Sequoyah's numerals.

    One of the so-called "five civilized tribes" native to the American Southeast, the Cherokee had long embraced the United States' program of "civilizing" Indians in the years after the Revolutionary War.

    In the minds of Americans, Sequoyah's syllabary further demonstrated the Cherokee desire to modernize and fit into the dominant European world. The Cherokee used their new press to print a bilingual version of republican constitution, and they took many other steps to assimilate European culture and practice (including chattel slavery of blacks) while still preserving some aspects of their traditional language and beliefs.

    Despite the Cherokee's sincere efforts to cooperate and assimilate with whites, their accomplishments did not protect them from the demands of land-hungry Americans. Repeatedly pushed westward in order to make room for white settlers, the Cherokee lost more than 4,000 of their people (nearly a quarter of the nation) in the 1838-39 winter migration to Oklahoma that later became known as the Trail of Tears.

    I guess its rather ironic that now President Andrew Jackson, under whose command Sequoyah and the Cherokees had fought the Creeks allied with the invading British in the War of 1812, defied the US Supreme Court's ruling that removal of the Cherokee was unconstitutional. Jackson is quoted as cynically saying "Let the Supreme Court enforce their ruling" in response to their attempt to stop him.

    Nonetheless, the Cherokee people survived as a nation in their new home, thanks in part to the presence of the unifying written language created by Sequoyah.

    In recognition of his service, the Cherokee Nation voted Sequoyah an annual allowance in 1841. He died two years later on his farm in Oklahoma.


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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    Very cool Homey, but that would be the succ to draw an annual allowance and die only two years later.


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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    thanks homey.

    the Phoenix is still in print...brings me up to date on my Injun news.

    and as for this bastage....



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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    Quote Originally Posted by Octavian
    thanks homey.

    the Phoenix is still in print...brings me up to date on my Injun news.

    and as for this bastage....



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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    That would be Andrew Jackson, Mr. "Go West" Indian nations.

    The Cherokees objected their eviction and took the case to the Supreme Court. Chief Justice John C. Calhoun sided with the Indians and so did the rest of the Court. Jackson said he didn't care what the court said, threatened Calhoun's life and deported the Nations anyway. Hence, the kingly robes in the cartoon.


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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBorn68
    That would be Andrew Jackson, Mr. "Go West" Indian nations.

    The Cherokees objected their eviction and took the case to the Supreme Court. Chief Justice John C. Calhoun sided with the Indians and so did the rest of the Court. Jackson said he didn't care what the court said, threatened Calhoun's life and deported the Nations anyway. Hence, the kingly robes in the cartoon.

    umm...John C. Calhoun (SC) was Jackson's VP (until he resigned to re-enter the US Senate,) not the chief justice. John Marshall was the SCOTUS chief justice during this period. Marshall is remembered mostly for being the guy who wrote the opinion that deciding on whether a law is constitutional is exclusively the domain of the US Supreme Court. Anyhoo, here's how it went down:

    The Cherokee went to the Supreme Court in 1831. They based their appeal on an 1830 Georgia law which prohibited whites from living on Indian territory after March 31, 1831, without a license from the state. The state legislature had written this law to justify removing white missionaries who were helping the Indians resist removal. The court this time decided in favor of the Cherokee. It stated that the Cherokee had the right to self-government, and declared Georgia's extension of state law over them to be unconstitutional. The state of Georgia refused to abide by the Court decision, however, and President Jackson refused to enforce the law.
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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    A Cherokee saved Jackson's life in the War of 1812, the ungrateful bastard.

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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    Sorry Homey, my mistake...forgive me I'm up way past my bedtime...

    Points? for being close?


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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBorn68
    Sorry Homey, my mistake...forgive me I'm up way past my bedtime...

    Points? for being close?
    Yep, very close in the sense that Calhoun hated Jackson.

    Calhoun being a "fire-eating" states rights guy disagreed with Jackson's staunch federalism. In fact, probably the only reason SC didn't secede during the "Nullification Crisis" of 1832-33 while Jackson was president was because Jackson literally threatened to raise a federal army of 100,000 which he proposed to lead personally and march to SC to hang everyone involved if they didn't chill-out. Jackson's threat prompted the SC folks to back down. Seriously.
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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    (Note to self: never bring up historical 'facts' around Col. Homey)

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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    The things I wouldn't know without OH's history lessons. Thanks.

    Here in Tennessee, lots of things are named after Andrew Jackson and Andrew Johnson. As for Polk, the other president from TN, not so much.

    This is imposible though: " "Sequoyah," or George Guess (or Gist), was born the son of a white Virginian fur trader and the daughter of a Cherokee chief..."
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    You go Boy trying to follow your logic here Is like chasin a chicken .

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    Re: Good Morning..."Talking Leaves"

    Quote Originally Posted by 12
    (Note to self: never bring up historical 'facts' around Col. Homey)
    Naw, I mess up too. Usually some sharpie who knows more than I do in a given area busts me though. I then try to fix my error.
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    "Without opportunities on the part of the poor to obtain expert legal advice, it is idle to talk of equality before the law"-- Justice Chas. Evans Hughes

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