WHAT IF the U.S. and all American companies pulled out of every country and we just closed our borders entirely and didn't aid, defend, or trade with anyone?
Would that make the dirka dirka's happy? Would we just get nuked sooner?
What??
WHAT IF the U.S. and all American companies pulled out of every country and we just closed our borders entirely and didn't aid, defend, or trade with anyone?
Would that make the dirka dirka's happy? Would we just get nuked sooner?
What??
Originally Posted by Pieces Hit
Yeah. Pretty much.
"Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength?
'It is I, speaking in righteousness, mighty to save.' "
Isaiah 63:1
my preference would be to bring em all home and shore up the boarders and live peacefully and let the rest of the world figure it out on their own.
Ooh, complex question. Areas that have shades of gray and room for debate. I don't see this thread going over well.
Free trade, yes. Defend and aid, no.
IF by "stopped policing the world" you included "stop propping up israel", I think you're onto something.
I think we tried that a couple of different times in the first half of the 20th century. Results weren't so good.
Half of the rest of the world would starve to death. They'd throw rocks at us, but their weak arms wouldn't get them very far. At the behest of China and Russia, the middle east would become the next superpower and Israel probably would fall eventually, likely with 2 or 3 of them surviving that battle. The rest of the world would be bored from the lack of music and movies exported by the US and sales of jaw harps and harmonicas would skyrocket.
Could anyone seriously explain why the hell are we in NATO still?
In Pacem Requiescat --- October 5, 2003 - October 18, 2010.
Texas lawyers!Originally Posted by Lid
D'OH!!!Originally Posted by oumartin
"Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength?
'It is I, speaking in righteousness, mighty to save.' "
Isaiah 63:1
Same reason Baylor is in the Big XII, texass politics.Originally Posted by TexasLidig8r
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Does this mean we'd all have to drive crappy American cars? We'd have Xboxes but no PS2s. And no televisions to hook the Xboxes up to. I think the globalization boat sailed long ago.Originally Posted by Pieces Hit
I'm not happy until you're not happy.
Heck, I cain't even git an Xbox.
Hardly crappy, imho:Originally Posted by mdklatt
"Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength?
'It is I, speaking in righteousness, mighty to save.' "
Isaiah 63:1
Pretty much what Iron said. We give out so much in monetary aid alone, it'd be a disaster. There'd be a nuclear war in the Middle East because the Baalist/Muslims would try for the umpteenth time to gang up on Isreal. The Isrealis would be forced to nuke.
China would invade Taiwan and aid North Korea in invading South Korea. The leaders of the European Union would sit around calling for meeting, conferences, and dialogs while Russia morphed back into the Soviet Union. Any choice of nutcase leader would attempt to arm Cuba a la the Soviets in 1962.
The dictators in the China and the newborn Soviet would again send their minions into Africa and South and Central America to foment revolutions there and arm their crackpot leaders.
Basically, if we stepped out, we'd be reliving the late 1930's and late 1970's when Roosevelt and Carter were asleep at the wheel. A president like Ronald Reagan and one strong leader in the EU, like another Margaret Thatcher would have to step up again and save everything...again.
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
it would be fun to see for a while. but think of it, see how upset new orleans was when the gov't ignored them??? even though the chocolate mayor was warned well in advance.
i say we take care of our own before we start ignoring others.
think of the state indonesia would be in after the tsunami had we not sent aid.
think of where we'd be (or maybe france and england... ok, just england) had we not bailed them out 60 years ago.
think of all the bitching and moaning that would be going on.
I don’t know if the block on that last one was due to low trajectory or if the guys up front didn’t hold their ground well enough. I’m not convinced it matters. We have every reason to believe the ball could have gone through the uprights and the refs would have signaled first down Oregon. - D.E.
Well, do you like driving a car, having a job, keeping your family warm during the winter, being able to fly on a plane, use plastic products, listen to CDs, use a computer or anything else even remotely based on a derivative of a hydrocarbon?Originally Posted by Pieces Hit
Yeah, cause isolationism really worked well in the 1930s. Imagine what it would do to a global economy!Originally Posted by oumartin
It's hard for a car to break down when it's part of a static display. I bet they're still depreciating like crazy, though.Originally Posted by White House Boy
I'm not happy until you're not happy.
fadada is right. We send billions and billions in aid to these countries every year and all they do is bitch that we don't send enough. Face it, much of the world is basically our welfare recipients. Their government are too stupid and underhanded to actually do anything themselves.
Hell, just look at the U.N. Food-for-Oil scandal. That's just a freaking microcosm of the dirtiness that would be going on if we stepped out. Although, believe me, if the world would just police itself and feed itself, it would be nice to step out.
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987