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    Thumbs down Gretzky in major trouble

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2324402

    all respect for the great one that I had is now gone.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    I don't view him in a negative light, even if he did know about it or even if he pladed bets on football games.

    I also don't have any problem morally with what Tocchet did, except that what he was doing was against the law.

    This whole thing is a huge deal up here as you can imagine, but I think it is all to do about nothing personally.

    I'll be looking forward to Don Cherry's comments on Coach's Corner this weekend to hear his take.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    do you seriously think that they didn't bet on hockey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrowl
    do you seriously think that they didn't bet on hockey?

    100%.

    Now, if it is found out that they did, get rid of all of them and don't let them near an NHL game for life.

    But from all accounts that I have read and seen, all of the betting involved football and basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoserSooner
    Now, if it is found out that they did, get rid of all of them and don't let them near an NHL game for life.
    What if it's found out Gretzky had his wife bet on NHL games for him? Oh, Santa Maria...

    But from all accounts that I have read and seen, all of the betting involved football and basketball.
    Nobody knows anything about the scope of this illegal sports book at this point. Of course they're going to SAY they didn't bet on NHL games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Scholz
    What if it's found out Gretzky had his wife bet on NHL games for him? Oh, Santa Maria...
    Yeah, that would be a major blow to the entire country. I think Wayne is smarter than that though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Scholz
    Nobody knows anything about the scope of this illegal sports book at this point. Of course they're going to SAY they didn't bet on NHL games.
    Well, I'm taking that from numerous reports from the investigators and what they have said publicly. Until they do the full disclosure of who did the betting, and what sport(s) they bet on, nobody can really say either way.

    It's been the lead story on EVERY newscast, and has been on the front page of most newspapers since Tuesday. It's big news up here....hopefully it doesn't overshadow the Gold Medal that we're going to win in a couple of weeks.

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    It's all they're talking about on sports radio down here. Does anybody find it really weird that his wife supposedly bet half a million dollars in like a month? There seems to be way more to this story than we know so far.

    What I don't understand is why? These people have plenty of money so placing a few bets is understandable, but why form a big illegal interstate gambling ring to do it? Why was there a New Jersey policeman involved?

    I can see this being just a small group of friends making wagers between each other, or I could see this getting really really ugly. This will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoserSooner
    It's been the lead story on EVERY newscast, and has been on the front page of most newspapers since Tuesday. It's big news up here...
    I can only imagine. And good luck in the Olympics.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by HoserSooner
    It's big news up here....hopefully it doesn't overshadow the Gold Medal that we're going to win in a couple of weeks.


    Bring it on, hoser.
    Sometimes I think I drink alot, then I see, like, the Motley Crüe behind the music, and realize I'm a huge *****.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Beanbag
    Why was there a New Jersey policeman involved?
    The Coyotes lose 2-1, understand?



    Any connection with mob ties is not good for the NHL to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Scholz
    The Coyotes lose 2-1, understand?



    Any connection with mob ties is not good for the NHL to say the least.

    I know. That's the worst case scenario I was talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Beanbag
    I know. That's the worst case scenario I was talking about.
    You think Janet Jones' exercise videos are mobbed up or something? Money laundering? Maybe Wayne Gretzky moves some serious weight out of Columbia.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    We'll see I guess.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    Seriously though, any betting with a sports book that is theoretically tied to the mob isn't good. These professional athletes bet huge amounts of money. Stories about MJ and Barkley losing fortunes in Vegas are well known. What do you think happens if one of these athletes gets too far behind? Giving inside info, fixing games, etc.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by HoserSooner
    100%.

    Now, if it is found out that they did, get rid of all of them and don't let them near an NHL game for life.

    But from all accounts that I have read and seen, all of the betting involved football and basketball.
    come on... how could you not bet on the sport you know the BEST???

    this is going to get really bad...

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Scholz
    The Coyotes lose 2-1, understand?



    Any connection with mob ties is not good for the NHL to say the least.
    Phoenix is the mafia capital of crooked sports. See aSu and Jerry "the enforcer" Colangelo .
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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by mrowl
    come on... how could you not bet on the sport you know the BEST???

    this is going to get really bad...
    Well, the fact that it is stated in the NHL rulebook that you aren't allowed to bet on hockey games. Now, that's not saying that they may or may not have given information on injuries etc. to those in the crime family that Tocchet as been associated with. You just don't bet on your own sport...I would hope that most professional athletes are aware of this fact.

    Word up here now, is that the reason they mentioned Mrs. Gretzky, was to try and lure Wayne out, and that they apparently now have wiretapped conversations between Gretzky and Tocchet regarding the betting ring. On what level, they didn't say though.

    If this is all about some NHL players throwing a few thousand down on a football game, then personally I don't have an issue with it. If this is about betting on hockey games, then all involved need to be removed, even if it is Gretzky.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    Quote Originally Posted by colleyvillesooner


    Bring it on, hoser.
    Actually, if I was a betting man (whoa, wrong thread? ), I'd have a tough time picking one. Canada and the Czechs are probably the best bets at this point in time.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    "If I did one thing that would embarrass Team Canada or the country or hockey I would resign," he said. "It didn't happen.

    "If I bet on sports - I would never embarrass Team Canada or the country or hockey - I would phone Gary Bettman and Bob Nicholson right now and say you know what, I resign, it's over, even if I made a $1 bet," Mr. Gretzky added, referring to NHL commissioner Gary Bettman.

    "I wouldn't even go into a sports book in Vegas," Mr. Gretzky said. "Even though it's legal, I would never do that. That's how serious I am."
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ry/Sports/home

    Wayne's the man.

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    Re: Gretzky in major trouble

    If wayne's wife told me to bet I would say how high.

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