Replace Kelvin with who?

[MikeInNorman]

I used to go when Tubbs was here and there was NEVER a crowd problem.

Official OU Men's Basketball Attendance figures, pg. 182 of the Media Guide:

1980-81: 4,695
1981-82: 7,250
1982-83: 10,084
1983-84: 10,073
1984-85: 11,070
1985-86: 10,004
1986-87: 8,332
1987-88: 9,281
1988-89: 9,903
1989-90: 10,499
1990-91: 10,159
1991-92: 7,500
1992-93: 7,724
1993-94: 7,680

ETA:per request:

1994-95: 8,718
1995-96: 9,282
1996-97: 9,420
1997-98: 9,226
1998-99: 10,248
1999-00: 11,248
2000-01: 10,324
2001-02: 10,416
2002-03: 11,266
2003-04: 12,002
2004-05: 11,571

[jdsooner]

Sherri Coale. Maybe she could coach both teams!

[MojoRisen]

Official OU Men's Basketball Attendance figures, pg. 184 of the Media Guide:

1980-81: 4,695
1981-82: 7,250
1982-83: 10,084
1983-84: 10,073
1984-85: 11,070
1985-86: 10,004
1986-87: 8,332
1987-88: 9,281
1988-89: 9,903
1989-90: 10,499
1990-91: 10,159
1991-92: 7,500
1992-93: 7,724
1993-94: 7,680

Those are useful stats- I am also willing to bet there were 8 more regular home games a year then as well.

What are the stats from 94-2006? and we can put this to rest.

[NickZeppelin]

How bad do we need Drew Lavender to change the the tempo of the game now?

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Not very much because he wasn't a point guard and he was an average 3 point shooter. McKenzie we could have used this year.

[King Crimson]

Those are useful stats- I am also willing to bet there were 8 more regular home games a year then as well.

What are the stats from 94-2006? and we can put this to rest.

that is interesting, thanks MIke. what difference would more games mean if it was an average?

[MojoRisen]

that is interesting, thanks MIke. what difference would more games mean if it was an average?

Figure more cup cakes - it is harder to keep an average up with more games- it also means 70K more fans came out annually and close to 2 million in revenue for the BBALL program.

I am guessing it wouldn't change the avg very much unless it were all cup cakes and low attendance for those extra games.

Anyone have the stats from 94 to present?

[King Crimson]

Anyone have the stats from 94 to present?

i wouldn't see why those wouldn't be in a media guide as well. i've got one from 2002....but i'm far too lazy to look for it right now.

kinda surprised that the 88 team is only teh 8th ranked in terms of attendence in Tubbs' years--the four year spike in the early 80's i assume is the 3 year Tisdale factor...and legitimately OU becoming a real national basketball....to the point that at least they talked about us some on ESPN's big east coverage (usually negatively). and those were great years with DJ/CHoo/Mccallister etc. those years were really a lot of fun.

[MojoRisen]

I ran the stats on Google- It looks like Kelvin has averaged over 11K a game since 2000- so this trend is only since the Mizzou game...

It said the other home games this year were all 10-11K attendance- so someone please tell me if that isn't correct? and we are only biatching about the Mizou game.

[Jay C. Upchurch]

In response to Big Red Ron's quote...
"The bottom line for me is if we get embarassed by probation then he should pay the price not the fans."

OU is already "embarrassed" by its lack of fan support in basketball. Why should the fans who aren't showing up for games get any consideration when it comes to those kinds of decisions?

[Jay C. Upchurch]

OU averages between 10,000 and 11,000 in ticket sales for every game, and has for a while.

The problem is getting half of those buying tickets to show up and cheer.

Too many absentee fans.

[OUstud]

OU averages between 10,000 and 11,000 in ticket sales for every game, and has for a while.

The problem is getting half of those buying tickets to show up and cheer.

Too many absentee fans.

...and that's the problem, right there. I guess people who have held football season tickets buy basketball tickets for points, not for wanting to go to any non-Aggy or Whorn games, and those that do go to the games because they spent their money on it don't cheer or do anything. Sure, it doesn't help that we aren't exactly BillyBalling it, but screw ticket sales, we just need people in the seats. I think if we readjusted/did away with the points system that we could get some real fans in the seats.

[Big Red Ron]

OU averages between 10,000 and 11,000 in ticket sales for every game, and has for a while.

The problem is getting half of those buying tickets to show up and cheer.

Too many absentee fans.

Jay, now you are using selective logic. The reason why people don't come while the sold attendence numbers are inlfated is because the BBall tix are are tied to the Football season package and remember we all think Kelvin's brand of ball is no fun to watch. Something has to give and apparently the fans have spoken by their actions.

[Big Red Ron]

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Not very much because he wasn't a point guard and he was an average 3 point shooter. McKenzie we could have used this year.

You are such a frickin nimrod. Have you ever played a sport that didn't include a TV or a skin flute?

Drew Lavender is/was the best point guard on our team last year. Everett was a nice option when other teams put a big guard on Drew but otherwise, Drew was a PG made to push the ball in an upbeat tempo game plan (probably why he left). DL would have been a perfect guard in Billy Ball. McKenzie was a three point specialist but not so good on defense and was less of a PG than DL or TE.

Also, Drew is/was a better three point shooter than anyone on our team this year!

[CtheB]

You are such a frickin nimrod. Have you ever played a sport that didn't include a TV or a skin flute?

Drew Lavender is/was the best point guard on our team last year. Everett was a nice option when other teams put a big guard on Drew but otherwise, Drew was a PG made to push the ball in an upbeat tempo game plan (probably why he left). DL would have been a perfect guard in Billy Ball. McKenzie was a three point specialist but not so good on defense and was less of a PG than DL or TE.

Also, Drew is/was a better three point shooter than anyone on our team this year!

I would like to know the last high school All-American that entered this program and stayed four years. Methinks it's Hollis Price, and none other in Kelvin's tenure. Could it be that reality inside the program is different than perception from the outside?

Two questions for answer. No affect on positive vibe intended.

[PrideTrombone]

I would like to know the last high school All-American that entered this program and stayed four years. Methinks it's Hollis Price, and none other in Kelvin's tenure. Could it be that reality inside the program is different than perception from the outside?

Two questions for answer. No affect on positive vibe intended.

We haven't had one. Ryan Humphrey transferred, Drew Lavender transferred. We haven't had any others, I believe.

[Big Red Ron]

We haven't had one. Ryan Humphrey transferred, Drew Lavender transferred. We haven't had any others, I believe.

You are correct sir. Hollis was a gift and we were blessed to have him here but he was not an all american HS player. Another reason why it is so sad to see Kelvin and his team impload.

Wait wasn't Drew's teamate in HS (who came here and also transfered) a McD's All-American?

So there's three and they all left.

[NickZeppelin]

Lavender didn't even play most of the last few games of last year when Godbold was inserted into the lineup after the KSU game.

[Big Red Ron]

Lavender didn't even play most of the last few games of last year when Godbold was inserted into the lineup after the KSU game.

Yeah and we were much better after that too.

He was already crossways with Kelvin for off-the-court issues by then. Drew probably told Kelvin that his offense was lamer than his High school team's.

[PrideTrombone]

You are correct sir. Hollis was a gift and we were blessed to have him here but he was not an all american HS player. Another reason why it is so sad to see Kelvin and his team impload.

Wait wasn't Drew's teamate in HS (who came here and also transfered) a McD's All-American?

So there's three and they all left.

Foust? Nah, don't think he was.

[Big Red Ron]

Foust? Nah, don't think he was.

I watched Foust play with Lavender in the McD's All American game. I remember that game clearly as yesterday because I kept getting confused about which of the two "little PG's" was ours. Unfortunately, I kept thinking this other little guy (who was MUCH better than Drew was ours) was Drew. Turns out that other guy was Chris Paul.