Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 45
  1. #1
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Jason White's Third Knee's Avatar
    Location
    [loh-key-shuhn] noun-a place of settlement, activity, or residence: This town is a good location.
    Posts
    5,415
    vCash
    500

    ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Texas' Young leaning toward dodging NFL draft

    By Len Pasquarelli
    ESPN.com




    Vince Young hasn't studied the 2006 NFL draft nearly as much as he has the Southern California defense that he faced in the Rose Bowl on Wednesday evening.
    But the University of Texas quarterback and some of the people advising him about his football future have perused the composition of the top 10 teams in the draft. And the makeup of the top 10, especially the franchises with the first five choices in April, might be enough to convince Young to return to the Longhorns for his senior season in 2006.
    Young, the Heisman Trophy runner-up, indicated this week that he plans to return to school to complete his eligibility, and sources close to the Texas quarterback confirmed to ESPN.com before Wednesday's game that he is clearly leaning that way.
    One reason he would return to Austin, those sources said, is the sense that, despite his enormous potential, Young might not be selected among the top five picks in the NFL lottery. Those sources spoke before Young's 467 total yard, three-touchdown performance against USC on Wednesday in Texas' 41-38 win.
    Many of the teams in the top 10 of the draft order have invested heavily in quarterbacks in recent years, and they might not be ready to give up on those picks or inclined to use another high choice on the position. Of the teams in the top five, just one, the New Orleans Saints, who own the second overall pick, have a dire need at quarterback.
    The New York Jets, with the No. 4 pick, are uncertain about the physical status of starter Chad Pennington, a first-round pick in 2000 who has undergone two shoulder surgeries in less than a year. But the Jets have a considerable financial investment in Pennington and likely will sign a veteran free agent as a contingency plan.
    Three weeks ago, ESPN.com reported that Young and his family, working within NCAA guidelines, were determining the process by which the Texas standout would meet with potential agents and evaluate suitors seeking to represent him. Key players in the process were Houston attorney Major Adams and Young's former high school coach, Ray Seals. But the process has not moved forward much in recent weeks, primarily because it appears Young will eschew the 2006 draft.
    Young has not completely decided against going into the '06 draft and could revisit the notion, sources said. Notable is that Texas coach Mack Brown has demonstrated a rare ability to keep underclass prospects from bolting early to the professional ranks. Underclass players have until Jan. 15 to petition NFL officials for inclusion in the 2006 draft.
    No matter how Young performs in the Rose Bowl, he and the people counseling him feel he probably won't move ahead of Matt Leinart, his counterpart from Southern Cal, in the eyes of NFL scouts. League talent evaluators privately harbor some doubts about Leinart, especially over his arm strength, but he is still viewed at this early stage of the draft process as the top senior quarterback prospect.
    For all his athleticism and playmaking skills, some scouts say there are certain areas of Young's game (like his release point) that need work, and that he would benefit from another college season. There are, however, no guarantees Young will be the top quarterback prospect in the 2007 draft, either, given the presence of Notre Dame star Brady Quinn.
    Young, 22, ran for 200 yards and passed for 267 more against USC on Wednesday.
    Senior writer Len Pasquarelli covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

  2. #2
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 Blues1's Avatar
    Posts
    3,609
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Stupid is What Stupid Does --- I'm betting in a Few Days you will hear a Different Story.....

    Still R'

  3. #3
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 The Consumate Showman's Avatar
    Location
    in the backfield with "indian" jack jacobs
    Posts
    1,667
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Sean May from UNC last year.....sounded something like, "I'll be back and I'm gonna convince all these other guys to stay with me...." Uh-huh.....
    I have too much sympathy for myself to feel any for you......

  4. #4
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Mjcpr's Avatar
    Location
    Tulsa, OK
    Posts
    31,841
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    To be fair, that article was written yesterday....for the most part. I read it yesterday at ESPN.com and I scanned it today. It's dated 1/5/06 but the only part that changed was the last line which had some of his stats from the game.

    In other words, he could change his mind based on last night's performance, his rising draft stock, etc.

  5. #5
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member
    Location
    Norman, OK
    Posts
    23,620
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    But the University of Texas quarterback and some of the people advising him about his football future have perused the composition of the top 10 teams in the draft. And the makeup of the top 10, especially the franchises with the first five choices in April, might be enough to convince Young to return to the Longhorns for his senior season in 2006.
    Maybe Vince is smart after all. After he doesn't meet expectations next year he'll wind up going much lower in the draft, end up on a better team, and won't have to worry about starting for a few years.
    I'm not happy until you're not happy.

  6. #6
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member King Crimson's Avatar
    Location
    spotlight kid
    Posts
    25,528
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason White's Third Knee
    Those sources spoke before Young's 467 total yard, three-touchdown performance against USC on Wednesday in Texas' 41-38 win.
    ]
    if you can win the Heisman in TV one game (Bush (Fresno), Leinart (UCLA, 2004)--not saying they didn't deserve it)--you can get in the top 5 with last night's performance.

  7. #7
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 FirstandGoal's Avatar
    Location
    Tying another knot to the end of my rope
    Posts
    3,572
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Anybody that advises radio to come back for another year is not his friend
    Quote Originally Posted by 8timechamps View Post
    Also, we're pretty dumb and like boobies a lot.

  8. #8
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 Tear Down This Wall's Avatar
    Location
    Chair
    Posts
    4,901
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    We need him to stay so that when we beat 'em in October they won't whine about breaking in three new OLs and a new QB and a new secondary...blah, blah, blah. Then they'll just be howling about their new OL and secondary...like us this year
    "General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
    President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987

  9. #9

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Yeah that was a hastily thrown together article from a past article. Vince Young said all year that he planned to stay. But after lastnight it might be a pretty bad choice to stay. I think he would go ahead of Matt this year.

  10. #10
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member King Crimson's Avatar
    Location
    spotlight kid
    Posts
    25,528
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Quote Originally Posted by Thesifer
    Yeah that was a hastily thrown together article from a past article. Vince Young said all year that he planned to stay. But after lastnight it might be a pretty bad choice to stay. I think he would go ahead of Matt this year.

    you are absolutely right. it's a hodge podge of quotes out of context and filler.

    unfortunately, the same thing is true in most political writing in the US. i think as "citizens" we ought to recognize this type of wire feed garbage for what it is.

    CNN, FOX, whoever, take your pick.

  11. #11
    Stayatworkdad yermom's Avatar
    Location
    Nomran
    Posts
    48,866
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Quote Originally Posted by King Crimson
    if you can win the Heisman in TV one game (Bush (Fresno), Leinart (ND, 2004)--not saying they didn't deserve it)--you can get in the top 5 with last night's performance.
    fixed.

    he barely did anything in the UCLA game, that was the Reggie Bush show

  12. #12
    Sooner Benchwarmer SoonerSince72's Avatar
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    416
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    My question would be, why would Vince risk coming back and getting hurt or even better, Texas getting Trounced by OU next year and Vince having a very bad year then ending up a much lower draft choice? It would make more sense to go, get the $$$ and hope he actually makes it as a QB in the NFL rather than risking it.
    Lois: Oh, my God! You can only play the piano when you're drunk!
    Peter: Now that's not true! I can also vomit, fall down and make dirty calls to your sister when I'm drunk!

  13. #13

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    If he's not in the top 5 after the Rose Bowl, he'll never be there. I think he may have moved to #2.

  14. #14
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member Jason White's Third Knee's Avatar
    Location
    [loh-key-shuhn] noun-a place of settlement, activity, or residence: This town is a good location.
    Posts
    5,415
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Well, I hope he comes back, so we can whip Texas with him.

  15. #15
    Stayatworkdad yermom's Avatar
    Location
    Nomran
    Posts
    48,866
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSince72
    My question would be, why would Vince risk coming back and getting hurt or even better, Texas getting Trounced by OU next year and Vince having a very bad year then ending up a much lower draft choice? It would make more sense to go, get the $$$ and hope he actually makes it as a QB in the NFL rather than risking it.
    he can always pull the Manning Maneuver

  16. #16
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member King Crimson's Avatar
    Location
    spotlight kid
    Posts
    25,528
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom
    fixed.

    he barely did anything in the UCLA game, that was the Reggie Bush show
    thanks. that's what i meant. i've been huffing paint thinner under a bridge all day and a little out of it. the USC-ND made for TV Heisman event.

  17. #17
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 BermudaSooner's Avatar
    Location
    Edmond, OK
    Posts
    1,799
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerSince72
    My question would be, why would Vince risk coming back and getting hurt or even better, Texas getting Trounced by OU next year and Vince having a very bad year then ending up a much lower draft choice? It would make more sense to go, get the $$$ and hope he actually makes it as a QB in the NFL rather than risking it.
    He can get an insurance policy, like Leinart did, from Lloyds. Not sure what his family situation is, but a second mortgage on his mother's home, and he then pays off the mortgage with either his signing bonus or the proceeds from the insurance policy next year. Premium would be in the range of 5-10% of the policy limit.
    "You get no moral credit for forcing other people to do what you think is right."---Penn Jillette

    "It's what I do, I drink and I know things."---Tyrion Lannister

  18. #18
    SoonerFans.com Elite Member crawfish's Avatar
    Location
    Way out in left field
    Posts
    17,651
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    Houston should feel INCREDIBLE pressure to draft him. If he goes in the top 2-3, then there is no question he'd be stupid to come back.

    I think he goes. He won't be any more ready next year.

  19. #19
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1
    Location
    Doomhammer
    Posts
    4,910
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    UT will still be in Austin if he wants the degree when his career in the NFL is over. He would be a total Lienart if he chose to stay.
    Boomer Sooner

  20. #20
    Sooner All-Big XII-2-1+1-1+1 BASSooner's Avatar
    Location
    Norman, OK (aka: Heaven)
    Posts
    2,587
    vCash
    500

    Re: ESPN: VINCE STAYS

    this article was here days before the NC game dude.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •