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    Death Penalty for Baylor

    So says USA Today.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...gram/84996974/

    More than a decade ago, Baylor was at the center of a sordid scandal involving murder and drugs, leading to some of the harshest penalties the NCAA has ever doled out.

    Apparently, the Bears didn't learn their lesson.

    Now, with the school accused of covering up numerous cases of sexual assault involving the football team, it's time to go a step further.

    Pull the plug on Baylor's entire athletic program.

    For good.
    And why NCAA shouldn't punish Baylor, from Yahoo.

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/wh...224-ncaaf.html

    If everyone agrees that football became too central of a focus, then isn’t handling this scandal via football penalties just an exacerbation of the problem?

    This is a criminal matter, a civil matter, a Department of Education matter and, most importantly, a matter that victims of the players will struggle to deal with for the rest of their lives. It’s serious. It’s sickening. It’s societal.

    To boil it down to a decrease in grants of aid or recruiting visits is to trivialize it even further. For a moment, just forget about football.

    The NCAA tried this with Penn State and since then my thinking has changed. The actions of Jerry Sandusky were horrific, but removed from the emotions of the day, penalizing a football team for such criminal depravity was the NCAA trying to seize a moral high ground.

    It’s unlikely it caused much healing among Sandusky’s victims. Instead, it missed the point. If Penn State allowed football to get too big, then why honor that by making Penn State football the target. If anything it galvanized some fans who sadly used the sanctions to play the victim card, like going 10-2 rather than 7-5 is some kind of inalienable right.
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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    Baylor's existence as a power five school should be up for review.

    http://www.cbssports.com/college-foo...up-for-review/

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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    Baylor should cancel their 2016 season.

    http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...z-fired-052616

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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    Baylor can always play lacrosse and hackey-sac.
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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    Yep... sounds like football will be out for them for a while. I feel for some of the players on the team currently though... the ones that did play by the rules and did nothing wrong. We should offer them asylum and keep them on our team for solidarity.

    All of it of course, in their best interest.

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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    As long as Houston is trying to nose their way into the big 12 we could trade out bu for uh. You know, just until the bad stuff dies down. Until Baylor gets its footing back. Until the bears have more stability in their top revenue sport.

    until everyone forgets that it was supposed to be temporary and the big 12 locks by out forever

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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    The conference could vote them out if they wanted, even though Bowlsby says they can't. He's either not telling the truth or he just doesn't know.

    http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/coll...ference-wanted

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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazeppa View Post
    The conference could vote them out if they wanted, even though Bowlsby says they can't. He's either not telling the truth or he just doesn't know.

    http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/coll...ference-wanted
    Not only should the Big 12 rid itself of this hypocritical parasite, the NCAA should kick them out too! A true scumbucket institution!

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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    ^here here!

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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    Reports: 7 Baylor signees have asked for their release (Update)

    Nick Bromberg By Nick Bromberg
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    Update: June 3 - 2:30 p.m.

    Collis Cobb, the father of Baylor signee Parrish Cobb, told Fox Sports that Baylor still hasn't granted his son's release.

    "Bennett told us that we'd have to follow through with the appeal process," Collis Cobb said. "What I took from that is they're not going to release anybody."
    Grobe's response, according to Cobb: "He said he couldn't sign off on that (the release) alone."
    Cobb said he plans to call the Baylor compliance office again on Friday and wait to see what the Big 12 office says.
    "I'm very surprised that it has come to this," Collis Cobb said. "My son didn't ask for any of this. He wasn't at Baylor when all these incidents happened. He just wants to move forward."

    Original Story: June 1 - 6:30 p.m.

    Baylor's incoming freshman football class could be a lot smaller than originally expected.

    According to ESPN, seven signees from the class of 2016 are requesting to be released from their National Letters of Intent including wide receiver Devin Duvarney. Here are the other six:

    Baylor's 2016 class that signed in February ranked as the best in school history, but signees Patrick Hudson, J.P. Urquidez, Jared Atkinson, Kameron Martin, Parrish Cobb and Donovan Duvernay have already requested releases from their NLI that bind them to the university, sources close to all seven confirmed.
    Baylor's class was ranked No. 17 in the country by Rivals.

    • Devin Duvarney is a four-star recruit from Sachse, Texas while Donovan is a three-star athlete. Devin is the No. 8 wide receiver in the nation.

    • Cobb is a four-star defensive back from Waco. He's the No. 12 cornerback in the country.

    • Atkinson is a 3-star wide receiver from Mesquite, Texas.

    • Hudson is a four-star offensive lineman from Silsbee, Texas and the No. 3 guard.

    • Urquidez is a four-star offensive lineman from Copperas Cove, Texas and the No. 9 offensive tackle.

    • Martin is a four-star running back from Port Arthur, Texas and the No. 7 all-purpose back.

    Baylor signed nine four-star recruits and 23 players overall. If it released all seven, it would have 16 signees and four four-star recruits as part of the class.

    Quarterback Jarrett Stidham, the quarterback who was the prize of Baylor's 2015 recruiting class, said he was still committed to the school over the weekend. Defensive back Grayland Arnold, a three-star member of the 2016 class, tweeted that he was still proud to be a Baylor signee.

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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    No death penalty for Baylor. Just life in a non power 5 conference with no possibility of parole.
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    Re: Death Penalty for Baylor

    It doesn't sound like Baylor is going to grant releases to the '16 players (from story on TFB). It's a 30 day process, so they could just be stalling until the last minute.

    But this thing isn't over. They appear to be keeping all the assistant coaches and it's hard to believe none of their names appear in the report. Then that interview with Ken Starr that is currently on the ESPN CFB page is down right embarrassing. He is changing his statements on the fly as some old PR lady is coaching him off camera (but ESPN put her on camera). The whole '17 class has bailed and I have to believe that the NCAA will come in at some time with penalties.

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