I'm not a huge Hillary fan. As far as Secretary of State I thought she did a good job. I liked her in that role much like I liked Condoleeza Rice when she was in there. I thought it played to her strengths. I wish there were another option on that side of the isle.
Can someone give me some rational reasons for the hatred? What I've heard so far is pretty weak.
sure you won't agree...but I'll throw it out there...
1st, I don't "hate" her...don't think she's honest, in fact more deceitful than most, for the record BOTH sides (pub/dem) are horrible...
couple of major issues
* pro abortion...like for any reason any time
* anti gun
* acts like she's a "reg little person" money wise but is worth millions upon millions
It just seems that anyone who supports her thinks just because she has a vagina she should be president because now that we've had a "black" president, we now NEED to have a woman president.
Better yet, why are you willing to put her in office?
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
Re: HillaryFest 2016
I'm mostly pro-choice. I think many of the pro-life people could go a long way to limit abortions by facilitating things like birth control, sex education and things like the morning after pill.Originally Posted by Soonerjeepman
I'm for following the kind of gun regulations that the NRA supported in the 1970s and the 1980s. I support guns but think we should be able to limit who gets them. I guess I agree with her to some extent.
She's no regular "little" person. She's a politician. She is probably the most experienced president that we will have had since GHWB.
She's my least worst case scenario candidate.
She is a murderer at worst, extremely selfish and incompetent at best.
Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.
(1) She's a liar. Too many examples to choose from here. She lies daily. E-mail thing is just the latest lie scandal in her career filled with them.
(2) She's as paranoid as Richard Nixon, if not moreso; hence, all the lying, track covering, the "I didn't know the e-mail thing would be a big deal." Bullsh*t. The paranoid control freak wanted to keep absolute control over all information emanating from her role as Secretary of State.
(3) Per Benghazi, her first inclination with international incidents is to blame America.
(4) She's a hypocrite: women's rights are supposedly first on her list...unless her husband has sexually harassed them. Then, women are trailer trash.
(5) She's become as much as corporate shill as her husband was with their "Clinton Foundation" and her speeches that she's so eager to keep under wraps.
(6) She's fat. If she can't even take care of herself physically....
We'd lose even more ground in the world than we have with Obama.
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"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
Her paranoia is well placed.
She's fat? Next thing you're going to tell me because she takes too long to go to the bathroom. And you and yours wonder why reasonable people don't get the popularity of Trump/Cruz.
http://www.slate.com/articles/double...rsive_act.html
What in the hell are you talking about? I don't have any dog in the fight because, as I've stated before, I'm not registered to vote. I posted several times that we're at the point of idiocracy - and, this election is the hardest proof of it yet.
The Republicans have Trump, who doesn't know what he's saying and Cruz who doesn't know where state and federal laws begin and end as far as the Constitution goes.
The Democrats have Sanders, who is a communist, and Hillary, who is a liar, blames America first, is a hypocrite with women's rights, is paranoid, and is a corporate money whore.
Don't attach any of them to me because they are all repulsive. The people who vote for any of those four get what they deserve. If America were still a place with a majority of sane voters, this race would be between guys like Rubio and O'Malley, but it's not. America is now a place where the extreme, revenge wings of both parties control the nomination processes.
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
I thought this thread would be about renaming this forum. I mean, according to Senator Turtle (R-KY), Obama's term is over already.
Ukraine: Not Our Fight.
More epicycles!
She wipes back to front.
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BOY HOWDY !!!!
Literally, LOL.
She eats Grey Poupon...
Hillary is probably the most corrupt politician in the last 50 plus years. Her Record as a U.S. Senator was unremarkable and her stint as Secretary of State was impressive only if you judge her by her frequent flyer miles. Libya, the Russian reset, The complete withdrawal from Iraq and the Syrian red line were all disasters. Throw in the scandals before, during and after the Clinton Administration and You have more than enough reasons to not vote for her.
Now tell me that honesty and integrity are not important virtues in electing a President?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-----Winston Churchill
Well, then, Bernie Sanders is your only choice.
If, as seems likely, he doesn't get a big win Tuesday, we will be subject to two candidates for president, each of whom are disliked by more than half of the US population. The guy with the Mr. Sunshine avatar is correct - we're phucked.
Ukraine: Not Our Fight.
More epicycles!
I think Dennis Hastert would be right up there. I have little sympathy for sexual abusers of minors.
5-0
BOY HOWDY !!!!
"the most corrupt politician in the last 50 plus years"
I'll just offer this...Google "list of political scandals"
You'll find Spiro Agnew, Rod Blagojevich, Tom Delay, the entire
"W" administration about the Iraq War, Ted Stevens, Newt,
Lewis Libby & Karl Rove. Rostenkowski, Traficant, the ENTIRE
Reagan staff over Iran Contra, Jesse Helms....etc. etc.....
I am part of the Silent Generation but just couldn't remain "silent"
about that "corrupt politician" statement...sorry..
The only one running who's as shi*ty a candidate as Hilry(Criminillary, or Treasonillary if you prefer) is Bern Marx.
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Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.
Rock On I'm afraid Mrs. Clinton has to be held to a higher standard. She is, unlike the ones you stated, running for POTUS.
I guess you might offer a different opinion of her after she is indicted in her email scandal. Or you might feel differently if you were one of the parents of the Americans killed in Benghazi that she lied to about the video being the cause of the attacks at Andrews Air Force Base. She claims she didn't tell them that, they say she did. Who do you honestly believe? You obviously have a higher opinion of her that most Americans, as her disapproval ratings are some of the highest ever recorded for a Presidential candidate. I would hope that some of those that have been destroyed by the Clinton machine all through the years come forward with their stories. Then, maybe then you might feel differently about her. But then, maybe not. Sorry.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-----Winston Churchill
Okay, Champs...only time I'll answer in this forum...Mrs. Clinton and a higher
standard?! Yup, you bet, it is called "double standard", you know, the one she
has been held to for the last 25 years! And, as to running for POTUS is what
she is held to, ummm, how about the TWO POTUS administrations I listed...
Hiz Honor Reagan and Hiz Holiness W...oh yeah, they were already in office!!
Emails, lessee, Powell and Rice, 'nuf said! Benghazi? 11 hours in front of Trey
Gowdy..nuthin', absolutely nuthin'! (It is gov't spin, saw it when I served..same
spin then as now) Clearly, at least to me, you have no clue as to how ALL gubment
puts spin on bad situations.
No need to apologize, Champs, for all her warts she is imminently better qualified
for POTUS than any clown the Pubs have, Bernie, too...jus' sayin'. Now, I shall be
silent, as in Silent Generation. Boomer!
Wow, have our values changed. I guess your definition of "qualified" and mine are radically different. It's sad when someone that has put herself above the law, on so many occasions, is not penalized for that behavior. It used to matter. It shows you how the main stream media picks and chooses our candidates these days. The know the investigative stories they could do on her would last a lifetime. But they like her leftists policies, so they for the most part giver her a pass.
I will stick with my earlier statement. She is by far the most corrupt politician running for office at this level in recent history. Most everyone knows it, but you.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-----Winston Churchill
you're lumping politicians in as a group.
Heres 22 of billiarys scandals
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they...scandals-ever/
This prolly be my Last election to vote in, If that bitch gets in Ima sit back and laugh until i die at all the weak minded idiots that wanted her.
And weep for My country I put the uniform on for!
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