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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by ObiKaTony View Post
    Moron is most certainly applicable to you. I'm a bandwagon fan? Lol. You have no idea how deep my sooner roots go, and just to give you a small example an 85 national chip ship ring is sitting at my grandmothers house so please, just stop.

    Based off his bowl and national championship record and the blowouts that have ensued, it's not 'bandwagon' to say this isn't acceptable. You also have to consider the human nature effect, 16/17 years at one program or anywhere is a very long time and anyone would get complacent, that's a fact. One of his first interviews he gave as coach in 99 he said 'it's been 15 for OU to be a national champion, that's too long...' So even by his own standard, he has failed.

    Stoops has been and is a good coach, but 'good' at certain places just isn't good enough. **** off on the bandwagon fan, $hit gets old.



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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by olevetonahill View Post
    What Pawn shop she buy it from?
    Jelous much? Lol

    Grandpa was a big 8 ref, later he owned a jewelry store and helped design the 85 ring due to his relationship with Switzer over the years. Daddy also wrestled for OU, and 3rd generation students 2 of which are dental students.

    Now, I really don't give a damn what you guys think, but back to the point.

    It's not out bounds to believe stoops needs to win a title inside of 17 years in order to justify him being here, this is Oklahoma-

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    How many coaches have won multiple national championships in the last 17 years?

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    How many have won 3 national titles each in 17 years and most with same program?

    Urban Meyer (3)
    Barry Switzer (3)
    Bud W (3)
    Nick saban (4)
    Bernie beirnab (3)
    Frank Lehey (4)
    John McKay (3)

    and there 15 more with 2 I don't feel
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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    No in the LAST 17 years, college football has changed a lot in the last 20 years or so, it's a lot harder to win consistantly.
    according to this only two coaches have won more than 1 national championship in THE LAST 17 YEARS.




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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    You think you could get one of these guys? Nobody else is doing any better.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    You think you could? So why should you say I'm wrong? I'm going by bobs own standard in 99 boys and girls.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by ObiKaTony View Post
    You think you could? So why should you say I'm wrong? I'm going by bobs own standard in 99 boys and girls.
    No Entiendo!

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Troll gonna troll.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by 12 View Post
    Troll gonna troll.
    Which troll is worse, the pot or kettle. This a legitimate thread based off facts spanning over a 17 year period.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by ObiKaTony View Post
    Moron is most certainly applicable to you. I'm a bandwagon fan? Lol. You have no idea how deep my sooner roots go, and just to give you a small example an 85 national chip ship ring is sitting at my grandmothers house so please, just stop.

    Based off his bowl and national championship record and the blowouts that have ensued, it's not 'bandwagon' to say this isn't acceptable. You also have to consider the human nature effect, 16/17 years at one program or anywhere is a very long time and anyone would get complacent, that's a fact. One of his first interviews he gave as coach in 99 he said 'it's been 15 for OU to be a national champion, that's too long...' So even by his own standard, he has failed.

    Stoops has been and is a good coach, but 'good' at certain places just isn't good enough. **** off on the bandwagon fan, $hit gets old.
    Ok, so if Bob just isn't good enough, what are you, personally, going to do if he doesn't come through next year?

    One other question - are you Tony Casillas? He's been somewhat moronic lately, too; I just thought there might be a resemblance.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by ObiKaTony View Post
    Which troll is worse, the pot or kettle. This a legitimate thread based off facts spanning over a 17 year period.
    Based off facts lol. Like the "fact" you threw out that stoops is 0-5 in national championship games? And you have the audacity to call others morons.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Bob had a nice rebound, albeit some help with a few injuries around the conference to key players, but we're conference champions, no easy task. He has made some really good hires of staff recently, unlike for many years staying with average coaches. Took him 13 years to fire his first which is hard to believe really.

    Recruiting will be OU's ticket back, I can't tell you the last time OU had a top 5 or even 10 class. That has to change for us to ever be where we want to be.
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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by ObiKaTony View Post
    Jelous much? Lol

    Grandpa was a big 8 ref, later he owned a jewelry store and helped design the 85 ring due to his relationship with Switzer over the years. Daddy also wrestled for OU, and 3rd generation students 2 of which are dental students.

    Now, I really don't give a damn what you guys think, but back to the point.

    It's not out bounds to believe stoops needs to win a title inside of 17 years in order to justify him being here, this is Oklahoma-
    Why would i be jealous?
    You dont seem to be the one who did much of anything.
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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    He's lost five BCS/title games before this most recent one???

    By season:
    L: 2003 Sugar
    L: 2004 Orange
    L: 2006 Fiesta
    L: 2007 Fiesta
    L: 2008 Orange

    There you go, 0-5. Please ignore the 2000 and 2015 seasons and those years he won BCS bowls that weren't the nat'l title game

    Lost to LSU 2003 season, NC game played in 2004
    Lost to USC 2004 season, NC game played in 2005
    Lost to Florida 2008 season, NC game played in 2009

    So Stoops has lost 3 NC games ...... how many coaches have taken their teams to 4 NC games? I think the coach who gets there and loses did a better job then the coaches who watched the game, but unfortunately the disappointment of the losses is what everyone wants to focus on. If we want to criticize I guess its fair to say that there were some ugly bowl losses in the bunch USC-NC, West Virginia, A&M, Clemson last year, and only one signature win outside of the National Championship - that being 2013 over heavily favored/highly ranked Alabama

    So Stoops has been to 17 or 18 Bowl games and won half/lost half. I still say getting there, win or lose, distinguishes you from your peers more so than just focus on the losses. How many coaches havent been to a bowl every year for that last 16 or 17?

    There are plenty of great coaches with plenty of bowl losses on their records - it might surprise some to check the records of Saban and Bobby Bowden to name a couple. The only coach I know who has played in plenty of high profile games and won nearly all of them is Urban Meyer.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    I've thought this since the UF game in 2009...we won't win another NC as long as Stoops is here. But, at this point, I could care less.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerStormchaser View Post
    I've thought this since the UF game in 2009...we won't win another NC as long as Stoops is here. But, at this point, I could care less.
    So if that's ok with everyone here (and most fans agree with this) then stoops is your coach- that's my only point. But somehow another it's almost politically incorrect to point out the fact stoops isn't going to win a championship...boomer I guess

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Not happy OU hasn't won one since 2000, semi-ok with the fact they've played in 3 others and got the playoffs this year. Life is short, yeah it sucks to be 2nd fiddle to bama..and maybe a few others, but the reality is, #1 OU is till good. Not too many teams that can claim OU's past. Yes, bama can..so what. #2 there isn't a dang thing ANYONE can do about it. The brass at OU isn't going to fire Bob. There is NO WAY 85K fans are going to stay home.

    I just enjoy the games, win's MUCH MORE THAN LOSSES, and yes it takes a day or 2 to realize it's be ok.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerForLife92 View Post
    Based off facts lol. Like the "fact" you threw out that stoops is 0-5 in national championship games? And you have the audacity to call others morons.
    Audacity! The new word of the month I guess

    Lsu
    USC (blow out)
    Uf
    Clemson (elimination game) (not close)
    0-4

    I had the intent to change but thought to myself screw it since we have got our *** kicked in so many bowl games, granted we have won some too.

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    Re: Does anyone really think Stoops...

    Quote Originally Posted by ObiKaTony View Post
    Audacity! The new word of the month I guess

    Lsu
    USC (blow out)
    Uf
    Clemson (elimination game) (not close)
    0-4

    I had the intent to change but thought to myself screw it since we have got our *** kicked in so many bowl games, granted we have won some too.

    I still count 4 national championship games in which he is 1-3. Not great, but it makes you look ridiculous to throw out stats that aren't even right and then claim your argument is based on facts.

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