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    Re: Two black cops kill a white kid. Where's the rage?

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    Exactly right. They do. Here's the problem with that: it results in many cops operating under the assumption that every black guy they run across is guilty especially if there is anything the least bit suspicious. That leads to a more aggressive posture by the police which leads to more confrontation which leads to shootings, death, and miscarriages of justice. Blacks may commit a disproportionate number of crimes, but that doesn't mean being black is a legitimate reason to be shot or have your civil liberties violated.

    So, there's an iron clad solution for blacks: stop engaging in the behavior (the valid statistical reasoning behind the perceptions, which underlies the response) which leads to an outcome you don't like. The symptom is irrelevant when the problem doesn't exist.

    I'm curious: if you personally were a cop and experienced the same statistical realities in your daily life, would your perceptions be any different? Is it wrong for a cop to synchronize their body language, with their moment-to-moment perception of their environment and any threats therein? When a cop displays a dominant posture, what's the best course of action - respond with resistance or aggression, or display a submissive posture of your own?
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    Re: Two black cops kill a white kid. Where's the rage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Since71ASooner4Life View Post
    So, there's an iron clad solution for blacks: stop engaging in the behavior (the valid statistical reasoning behind the perceptions, which underlies the response) which leads to an outcome you don't like. The symptom is irrelevant when the problem doesn't exist.

    I'm curious: if you personally were a cop and experienced the same statistical realities in your daily life, would your perceptions be any different? Is it wrong for a cop to synchronize their body language, with their moment-to-moment perception of their environment and any threats therein? When a cop displays a dominant posture, what's the best course of action - respond with resistance or aggression, or display a submissive posture of your own?
    This is my point. Whether you are a black in the inner city or some white redneck in a small town, picking fights with the local yokel probably isn't going to end well for you - no matter the skin color of the local yokel.
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    Re: Two black cops kill a white kid. Where's the rage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Since71ASooner4Life View Post
    So, there's an iron clad solution for blacks: stop engaging in the behavior (the valid statistical reasoning behind the perceptions, which underlies the response) which leads to an outcome you don't like. The symptom is irrelevant when the problem doesn't exist.

    I'm curious: if you personally were a cop and experienced the same statistical realities in your daily life, would your perceptions be any different? Is it wrong for a cop to synchronize their body language, with their moment-to-moment perception of their environment and any threats therein? When a cop displays a dominant posture, what's the best course of action - respond with resistance or aggression, or display a submissive posture of your own?
    Same line of thought goes well with "profiling" young Muslim men. We've all seen the sarcastic internet thing about the long list of terror bombings, "carried out by young Muslim men." When a stereotype/perception/situation is constantly reinforced, eventually you should give in, and prepare to handle that situation when it occurs. Again.

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    Re: Two black cops kill a white kid. Where's the rage?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTip View Post
    Same line of thought goes well with "profiling" young Muslim men. We've all seen the sarcastic internet thing about the long list of terror bombings, "carried out by young Muslim men." When a stereotype/perception/situation is constantly reinforced, eventually you should give in, and prepare to handle that situation when it occurs. Again.
    If the Mormons begin strapping bombs to their kids, bombing shopping centers, and hijacking airplanes, I'll begin to profile their bike missionaries during the summer. Or, Baptists...or, Catholics...or, Presbytarians....etc.

    Until, then, I'm stuck with having to profile the people of the religion that do strap bombs to their own kids, do bomb public places, and to hijack airplanes. Sorry. I'll be an equal opportunity profiler once some religion besides muslims starts doing what they do.
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    Re: Two black cops kill a white kid. Where's the rage?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTip View Post
    Same line of thought goes well with "profiling" young Muslim men. We've all seen the sarcastic internet thing about the long list of terror bombings, "carried out by young Muslim men." When a stereotype/perception/situation is constantly reinforced, eventually you should give in, and prepare to handle that situation when it occurs. Again.
    Its unfortunate that young Muslim men find themselves the object of prejudice. In that case, we are talking about a tiny fraction of the Muslim population who are in fact terrorists. A good many more hate Americans, but that doesnt make them terrorists. Statistically speaking, the small fraction who are terrorists doesn't logically justify the degree of prejudice which exists. But maybe the fear factor is heightened by the nature of what can occur when in fact there is a terrorist. Important for the young Muslim men to remember, is that the unfortunate prejudice which exists wasn't created by anyone outside of their race - it's an inside job.

    We aren't talking about a small fraction of the black population upon which the perceptions/prejudice of police is based, especially in certain downtrodden neighborhoods. It is a sad fact that such a large portion of the black population exists in crime ridden neighborhoods, and in large part become conditioned by their environment / lack of family structure / proper upbringing. Being a tough guy on the street might be what you learn to do to survive in those circumstances, but you need to learn to stand down when a cop gives you an order. Showing the cop a confrontational posture isn't going to soften the cop's response.

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    Re: Two black cops kill a white kid. Where's the rage?

    Ima say just a few things then Hang up ok?

    The BAD cops were arrested and charged under a Mil Bond each right? What else you want?
    I do see the double standard by the MSM.
    The Idiots that burn
    their places down are just that Idiots
    Until EVERY one is subjected to the Rule of Law and WE as White Folk quit the Racist BS they gonna do it!
    The White folk need to look at the Crime! Not the Color
    Same same Black folk. The white folk need to quit feeling Guilty about 200 years ago.
    Nuff said !
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