I was talking OU football recently with someone who suggested this very thing. I laughed and said NO WAY. I went on to say that such a move would be widely opposed, not embraced. Am I right or wrong?
I was talking OU football recently with someone who suggested this very thing. I laughed and said NO WAY. I went on to say that such a move would be widely opposed, not embraced. Am I right or wrong?
Owen '05-'26 122-54-16 .677 (Foundation)
Wilkinson '47-'63 145-29-4 .829 (DYNASTY 1) 3 NC
Switzer '73-'88 157-29-4 .837(DYNASTY 2) 3 NC
Stoops '99- PRESENT 179-46.793 (DYNASTY 3) 1 NC and still WAITING
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I don't think BV would come back. Heck, he might be in the running for Spurrier's job at this point.
^This. His next gig will be HBC - not necessarily replacing *the* HBC, but it won't be another DC job.Originally Posted by cvsooner
[I] agree but that is not the point,the point is would firing Mike and hiring(or trying) be a good idea.
Owen '05-'26 122-54-16 .677 (Foundation)
Wilkinson '47-'63 145-29-4 .829 (DYNASTY 1) 3 NC
Switzer '73-'88 157-29-4 .837(DYNASTY 2) 3 NC
Stoops '99- PRESENT 179-46.793 (DYNASTY 3) 1 NC and still WAITING
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No.
No
"Image is what people think we are. Integrity is what we really are"
BGB will NOT fire his brother. Mike would have to resign, and I doubt Bob(BGB) would even allow that.
Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.
Oh, I think if Mike resigned, he would and Bob would let him. Hell, he's done it once.
I think Bob would rather retire than fire his brother. There's a chance, though, that Mike could be "encouraged" to find another HC job.
Well yeah, what I mean is I think Bob wouldn't want to be ANY part of putting pressure on Mike to resign.
Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.
As much as I think Mike has trouble scheming against good spread offenses, I don't think BV would do any better. I think Mike was better suited when scheming against traditional pro-set offenses, with the occasional clunker or two thrown in.
OU fan since '88. Pissing off the Sunshine Pumpers since I've been on this site.
Let's not forget that recruiting was declining in Venables final years and let's not forget those defensive performances against Texas Tech in Norman, Baylor and OSU in 2011. Not to mention, when Venables took over, his weaknesses was his linebackers getting shredded over the middle and Texas Tech won every yer in Lubbock when Venables was the defensive coordinator including once in Norman. I don't even want to think what Baylor and TCU would do to his defenses now.
He's doing well in the ACC, but the ACC has a good number of weak and/or one-dimensional offenses. There isn't a harder conference to defend than the Big 12 offenses.
Zero chance of that happening. If things don't get better, I can see OU pushing Mike to explore other options. I doubt Bob would outright fire him. I don't think OU or Bob would ever rehire a guy they let go regardless of how successful he has become since. They're way to proud for that.
Not sure what some of this fanbase's obsession is with regurgitating the same coaches who have been here..Honest to God, it's incredibly stupid. I was considered a pro-Brent guy here but that ship has sailed.
It's why I was against bringing Mike back(don't hire someone you can't fire), I'm against bringing Mangino back, etc... Get over the past and learn to move on..Sweet F'n Christ.
Bazinga
I approve this message. In Mike's case, there were red flags all over that situation. If it looked like Mike was getting preferential treatment, it could cause all kinds of problem in the coaching staff. And I wasn't even considering the possibility he might do a poor job. It worked before for a short while when Mike and Brent shared duties, but now Mike sure looks to be the HC's golden child (or bro).
The BV ship has sailed. It would be detrimental to his career to take a step back at this point. He's finally out from behind the Stoops shadow, he essentially got demoted when Bob brought Mike back (from sole to co-DC) and now he's proving that he can succeed away from Norman.
Mind you, I fully expect Clemp-son to choke like they always do every season, but HEY! Enjoy the ride while it last, Tigers*
*Same with you, Memphis**
**I guess LSU too***
***But not Mizzou. Those Tigers suck****
****And eff Auburn. Those Tigers also suck
Aside from Striker and Bond our LB play seems very laid back. They are out there, they make some plays but they are not a presence/force like we used to have for a very long time. They are just ok. I really hoped that Kish was part of the house cleaning last year, but I think he is the DC's golden child.
Well I'm not saying fire Stoops but if he left I wouldn't be too upset with Kevin Sumlin.
"My landmass erupts with kittens."
Why would he come back?------I bet he goes to K-State when the Old Man leaves
I bet he's got the job if he wants it.
Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.
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