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    Trey Gowdy's Benghazi Witch Hunt.....Waz up Wid Dat?

    Seems there are credibility as well as possible legal problems lately.

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    Re: Trey Gowdy's Benghazi Witch Hunt.....Waz up Wid Dat?

    Benghazi has run its course. It isn't 1/100th the scandal the e-mail server and IRS issues are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    Benghazi has run its course. It isn't 1/100th the scandal the e-mail server and IRS issues are.
    You bet it is when people are murdered, and then covered up. You tell the loved ones of the four their deaths are not as important as some emails.
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    Re: Trey Gowdy's Benghazi Witch Hunt.....Waz up Wid Dat?

    Quote Originally Posted by champions77 View Post
    You bet it is when people are murdered, and then covered up. You tell the loved ones of the four their deaths are not as important as some emails.
    The scandal around their deaths is not as important as the e-mails which contained classified information essential to the national security of the United States and our ability to conduct diplomacy.

    I'm not aware of any murder that was covered up. There was a lot of CYA going on but that's substantially different than covering up a murder. What they attempted to cover up, early in the process, was the catalyst or reason for the attack on the consulate.

    Benghazi was a major cluster****, but that's hardly unique when it comes to American foreign policy. Clinton exercised incredibly bad judgement both before and after the attack that should prevent her from ever holding another elected or appointed office, but the facts here are *generally* known. The committee is after every remaining crumb under the table, and I don't have a huge problem with that but it isn't as big a deal as the e-mail servers or IRS.

    You have to keep in mind that they were FSOs with a dangerous duty assignment. They knew the risks and they died in the commission of their duties. It's tragic and it shouldn't have happened, but it's one of those risks you take.

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    Hillary is an idiot with or without it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    The scandal around their deaths is not as important as the e-mails which contained classified information essential to the national security of the United States and our ability to conduct diplomacy.

    I'm not aware of any murder that was covered up. There was a lot of CYA going on but that's substantially different than covering up a murder. What they attempted to cover up, early in the process, was the catalyst or reason for the attack on the consulate.

    Benghazi was a major cluster****, but that's hardly unique when it comes to American foreign policy. Clinton exercised incredibly bad judgement both before and after the attack that should prevent her from ever holding another elected or appointed office, but the facts here are *generally* known. The committee is after every remaining crumb under the table, and I don't have a huge problem with that but it isn't as big a deal as the e-mail servers or IRS.

    You have to keep in mind that they were FSOs with a dangerous duty assignment. They knew the risks and they died in the commission of their duties. It's tragic and it shouldn't have happened, but it's one of those risks you take.
    Not covered up? The root cause of the deaths certainly was. To avoid the appearance that Obama's foreign policy was not going as well as Obama was claiming, they manufactured a new cause if the attacks, a video that incited the attacks. Not to mention the coordination of these lies, but The lies of her role before and after the attacks.

    If she wasn't running for Prez, more focus would be on Benghazi. No telling to the levels of government this actually reaches.
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    Re: Trey Gowdy's Benghazi Witch Hunt.....Waz up Wid Dat?

    Well here's a tinfoil conspiracy theory. The CIA was running arms out of Libya to the CIA trained rebels in Syria. The information about the details and plans were hacked from Hiliary's server. That's how those who attacked Benghazi knew the ambassador would be there overseeing the operation. It could have even been the Russians who hacked the server and turned the information to their surrogates in the ME. Why would Hilliary selectively delete e-mails from her server. She is stupid but not stupid enough to not understand that action wouldcause an uproar. So in her estimation deleting the e-mails was worth the potential political fallout. Did she really think the GOP would try to use personal e-mails? That would just make her look like a victim of a GOP over reach and persecution.

    The bottom line is there was some pretty damaging information on the deleted e-mails otherwise she wouldn't have risked the fall out that she is now suffering.
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    It is a Witch hunt!
    They Hunting that ****in Witch Billiary and hoping to burn her at the stake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by olevetonahill View Post
    It is a Witch hunt!
    They Hunting that ****in Witch Billiary and hoping to burn her at the stake!

    Both you and Kevin McCarthy should be saluted for your honesty.

    I'd like the Justice Department to appoint a Special prosecutor to subpoena Gowdy's emails to see how much of the investigation is purely political, and when it became so, if not at the onset.

    Using public funds for political purposes isn't just unethical, it's illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaii 5-0 View Post
    Both you and Kevin McCarthy should be saluted for your honesty.

    I'd like the Justice Department to appoint a Special prosecutor to subpoena Gowdy's emails to see how much of the investigation is purely political, and when it became so, if not at the onset.

    Using public funds for political purposes isn't just unethical, it's illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaii 5-0 View Post
    Both you and Kevin McCarthy should be saluted for your honesty.

    I'd like the Justice Department to appoint a Special prosecutor to subpoena Gowdy's emails to see how much of the investigation is purely political, and when it became so, if not at the onset.

    Using public funds for political purposes isn't just unethical, it's illegal.

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    So anybody who works for the government and has the highest security clearance the government authorizes should be able to keep their own server in their home?

    BTW, would you really vote for Hilliary if she is the Dem. nominee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    So anybody who works for the government and has the highest security clearance the government authorizes should be able to keep their own server in their home?

    BTW, would you really vote for Hilliary if she is the Dem. nominee?

    I'm not sure of the ethics/legalities of keeping the private server. Apparently it was wrong and HRC acknowledged that and apologized. Whether she is indicted/ slapped on the wrist/ exonerated is above my pay grade. Hopefully the truth will eventually be leaked out by Gowdy like his other confidential leaks.

    As I've said many times I'm a swing voter, you know the ones the Republicans need to convince for them to win on the National level. I tend to vote for the lesser of the 2 evils, regardless of Party. Honestly right now I like Kasich from Ohio. He seems to be willing to work with both sides to get this Country moving forward. He's crowed about balancing the budget. Whether he gets the nomination remains to be seen.

    .....and no, I'm not signing your stupid pledge. Get real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    Well here's a tinfoil conspiracy theory. The CIA was running arms out of Libya to the CIA trained rebels in Syria. The information about the details and plans were hacked from Hiliary's server. That's how those who attacked Benghazi knew the ambassador would be there overseeing the operation. It could have even been the Russians who hacked the server and turned the information to their surrogates in the ME. Why would Hilliary selectively delete e-mails from her server. She is stupid but not stupid enough to not understand that action wouldcause an uproar. So in her estimation deleting the e-mails was worth the potential political fallout. Did she really think the GOP would try to use personal e-mails? That would just make her look like a victim of a GOP over reach and persecution.

    The bottom line is there was some pretty damaging information on the deleted e-mails otherwise she wouldn't have risked the fall out that she is now suffering.
    You are cookoo for coco puffs on that one.

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    It's all a witch hunt. Generally, government employees don't share an email domain with a former President. So, we're never talking an apples/apples comparison.

    Too bad McCarthy let the truth out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaii 5-0 View Post
    I'm not sure of the ethics/legalities of keeping the private server. Apparently it was wrong and HRC acknowledged that and apologized. Whether she is indicted/ slapped on the wrist/ exonerated is above my pay grade. Hopefully the truth will eventually be leaked out by Gowdy like his other confidential leaks.

    As I've said many times I'm a swing voter, you know the ones the Republicans need to convince for them to win on the National level. I tend to vote for the lesser of the 2 evils, regardless of Party. Honestly right now I like Kasich from Ohio. He seems to be willing to work with both sides to get this Country moving forward. He's crowed about balancing the budget. Whether he gets the nomination remains to be seen.

    .....and no, I'm not signing your stupid pledge. Get real.

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    I'm with you. I voted Dem twice since 1988. Yet I'm some "libtard" socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I'm with you. I voted Dem twice since 1988. Yet I'm some "libtard" socialist.

    In the NeoCon Bizarro World there are no Moderates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawaii 5-0 View Post
    I'm not sure of the ethics/legalities of keeping the private server. Apparently it was wrong and HRC acknowledged that and apologized. Whether she is indicted/ slapped on the wrist/ exonerated is above my pay grade. Hopefully the truth will eventually be leaked out by Gowdy like his other confidential leaks.

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    As Al would say..."Give me a physical break..." You believe that apology bull****? She and the rest of the politicians lie their *** off if they are breathing...She has acknowledged nothing, to her, its what difference does it make...Leave her alone, let her get anointed and she will rule over all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumanAlphabet View Post
    As Al would say..."Give me a physical break..." You believe that apology bull****? She and the rest of the politicians lie their *** off if they are breathing...She has acknowledged nothing, to her, its what difference does it make...Leave her alone, let her get anointed and she will rule over all...
    I fully expect her to apologize yet again at the Debate tonight. Like Carly Fiorina sez......say anything enough and some people will actually believe it. Still waiting for the unedited tape she claims is she saw.

    The HRC appearance before the Congressional Committee should make for excellent politifun.

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    I'm fairly convinced Huma and Hillary have a lesbian relationship. NTTAWWT but it is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I'm with you. I voted Dem twice since 1988. Yet I'm some "libtard" socialist.
    As well you should be. You earned that "label" with your unyielding, dedicated Devotion to leftist dogma. Who you voted for 10-20 years ago really doesn't matter today. You've just "evolved" Does that label bother you?
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