Just how bad will this season be?

[stoopified]

Stoops has not done as well in his second decade. But in Stoops' bad years, OU is still 8th best winning percentage among power 5 teams...And he is 6th among active power 5 coaches over the period...

We have high expectations because historically we win about 75% of our games, and expect a MNC every 8 years or so. But I can't imagine him being on the hot seat among serious decision makers unless he fails to win 9 games for several years in a row.

Bob has gone from coaching at a Bud-Barry level ,now he is producing Gibbs level teams. That was not acceptable then and IMHO is not any more so now. Bob has had 6+ years to reverse the slide and has failed to do so, in fact the slide appears to be accelerating.

[kbsooner21]

When a talking head mentions elite programs, you hear him/her say something like, "The Alabamas, Ohio States, Baylors, Florida States of the world". They don't mention Oklahoma in that sentence anymore.

Wake up!

The Baylors... LMFAO!!!!

[SicEmBaylor]

The Baylors... LMFAO!!!!

I see nothing wrong with that.

[olevetonahill]

I see nothing wrong with that.

YOU wouldnt Moran !

[kbsooner21]

I see nothing wrong with that.

Just that his argument is about all this tradition and competing for national championships...

[SicEmBaylor]

Just that his argument is about all this tradition and competing for national championships...

I never read anything about tradition or prior national championships in his comment. Neither of which are all that important except to the member institutions. I took his comment to mean the here/now/very recent landscape of college football.

[manateepower]

So now we have a magical Nov 1 date that defines acceptably competing for a NC? Is this something that Moses brought down off the mountain?

All the complaints and whining I see here are just that. This is the natural ebb and flow of major college football. Ask Nebraska, Penn State, USC, Tennessee, Michigan how easy replacing long-time winning coaches is. Even Florida and Texas with all of their built in advantages have had bad times recently. Now there are people (you) who think we should fire the all-time winning-est coach in OU history because he isn't living up to some arbitrary standard you think needs to be met? The things OU has going for it are a very clean, stable program and a great tradition. Bob Stoops is a large part of that.

Is it hard competing in the new big money landscape of mega-television contracts, rules designed to create parity and ethically challenged coaches fighting to grab their share of the pie even if it means leaving scorched earth in their wake? Yep it is and Stoops has done the job well for 16+ years. So when you say it's time for Stoops to go because somehow there must be a better coach available I think you are just chasing you tail.

Do you even listen to the people you argue with?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Bob has gone from coaching at a Bud-Barry level ,now he is producing Gibbs level teams. That was not acceptable then and IMHO is not any more so now. Bob has had 6+ years to reverse the slide and has failed to do so, in fact the slide appears to be accelerating.

What has been most exasperating as a fan is that I was hoping Mike Stoops still had defensive coaching excellence in him, like he demonstrated 2000-3003. In his second coming to OU, it just ain't happening. That failure has shone an alarming light on the current state of our coaching.

[Soonerjeepman]

I'm thinking Bob would rather go down with the ship than fire his brother. Now, he might be able to get him another job somewhere....but he isn't "firing" him.

someone mentioned he'll stay in Norman til his sons graduate hs...what year are they?

[BoomerMcSooner]

Bob has gone from coaching at a Bud-Barry level ,now he is producing Gibbs level teams. That was not acceptable then and IMHO is not any more so now. Bob has had 6+ years to reverse the slide and has failed to do so, in fact the slide appears to be accelerating.

When do you imagine this slide started? 2009 when we went 8-5?

Stoops followed with 4-straight 10+ win seasons (all of them better than any of Gibbs') and a .811 winning percentage. Then he had another 8-5 down year.

Stoops has never had a sustained run of bad seasons like Barry did in '81-'83.

The OU fan base was full of folks that would have gladly traded Switzer for Schnellenberger following the '83 season.

And those folks were more rational than the "fire Stoops" crowd is now based on recent performance history.

[SoonerorLater]

Do you even listen to the people you argue with?

No. On SF I read what they say.

[aurorasooner]

If we don't win Saturday, then it may be a toss-up which team has the most wins, us or the Whorns. It's just hard to believe that the dumpster-fire we were all talking about down in Austin, might actually be just a little north of Lindsay St.

BTW, I don't think the Whorns are any good at all, and we just completely screwed the pooch last Saturday. They may only get one more W against Kansas and ISU may whoop them.

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

If we don't win Saturday, then it may be a toss-up which team has the most wins, us or the Whorns. It's just hard to believe that the dumpster-fire we were all talking about down in Austin, might actually be just a little north of Lindsay St.

BTW, I don't think the Whorns are any good at all, and we just completely screwed the pooch last Saturday. They may only get one more W against Kansas and ISU may whoop them.

Texas isn't going to a bowl. We were their bowl.

[BoulderSooner79]

The horns going to a bowl is a possibility. They have already played TCU,OSU and OU and they will lose to BU. They would need to win 4 or the other 5 - not an easy task, but it could happen.

[cvsooner]

I'm thinking Bob would rather go down with the ship than fire his brother. Now, he might be able to get him another job somewhere....but he isn't "firing" him.

someone mentioned he'll stay in Norman til his sons graduate hs...what year are they?

Freshmen, I think?

Nope...sophs.

http://newsok.com/article/5441480

[manateepower]

No. On SF I read what they say.

If you're going to be annoyingly literal, you're not doing that either.

[SoonerorLater]

If you're going to be annoyingly literal, you're not doing that either.

That's the type of response that is indicated when somebody takes a drive-by swipe for no good reason.

Yes, I took his post(s) into account. I disagreed.

[Sooner70]

Grossly Pessimistic Forecast: Lose to KSU, Baylor, TCU & OSU, to finish regular season 7-5

Moderately Pessimistic: Lose to Baylor, TCU, OSU to finish regular season 8-4

Somewhat Optimistic: Lose to Baylor, TCU to finish regular season 9-3

Optimistic: Lose only to Baylor to finish regular season 10-2

Wildly Optimistic: Run the table the rest of the way & finish 11-1 uhhhhh

All this assumes Kansas, Iowa State and Texas Tech cooperate

[oupride]

Let's wait and see how the season plays out. This is not the same team as last year.

[Rock Hard Corn Frog]

Let's wait and see how the season plays out. This is not the same team as last year.

I still have plenty on concerns but after yesterday's performance I'm giving myself a big STFU for a while. At least for one week we looked like a NC contender. I know it was KSU but that is as bad as Snyder has been whipped in a long time.