Yup ... And to soonerjeepman um TCU isn't more talented on defense that's for sureOriginally Posted by PhiDeltBeers
Yup ... And to soonerjeepman um TCU isn't more talented on defense that's for sure
"If you're going to be at Oklahoma, you need to win, you need to contribute, you need to do all the little things to make this team succeed.'" T-Lew
TCU likely beats us like a rented mule - but I'm willing to be amused by anyone who wants to try and convince themselves otherwise!
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Lots of talk about not having great talent anymore, you mean we don't have national championship talent like:
Jeremy Wilson-Guest
Antwone Savage
Josh Norman
Barry Hollieman
Frank Romero
Rocky Bright
Ryan Fischer
Ontei Jones
Seth Litrell
We have WAY more talent than that 2000 team, the difference is those guys blocked on every play, wrapped up on every tackle and caught every ball that hit their hands. The 2000 coaches demanded every player be fundamentally sound. Every since we've tried to win with recruiting stars and schemes.
Seriously? You're going to play the bad fan card after the 2nd straight ugly loss to one of our top 2 rivals? Besides, I don't think Bob, Joe or David care about the average fan unless there's not enough of us to fill the seats on game days.
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I mean, if you want to ignore the fact that that team also had Josh Heupel, Quentin Griffen, Rocky Calmus, Derrick Strait, Michael Thompson (who would have been an NFL draft pick if not for the car accident), Andre Woolfolk, and Roy Williams, then I guess you can make any argument work.
Which players on this year's team do you think would have started in 2000?
Therein lies the quickest path to change. If you want regime change, don't go to the games.
“They hadn't shown it, but I knew it was there because we had just stopped the run,” (Mike) Stoops said. “They went to the same formation. They weren't going to run it again. We had them outnumbered and just didn't have our guys prepared, ready for the play.”
“When they got in that set and I knew it was coming and I didn't have them obviously prepared enough,” he said.
Well, at least he admitted he was part of the problem.
Then how about the broadcast crew giving away that one of our linemen set his feet differently depending on the play? I wonder if Texas players were tipped off in-game by that.
Griffin would be behind Samje and Mixon, Strait might start opposite Sanchez but he was a freshman, Wolfolk was still a WR - no Shepard, Thompson would be on the bench, Calmus wasn't as fast as Striker, Alexander or Evans, Roy and Heupel were pretty good though. Overall 2015 team has WAY more recruiting stars but they don't block, tackle and play fundamentals nearly as well - that was my point.
CYes tt at home. They still put up points...more than we do. I'll take tt. There have been obvious situations and that means nothing. I don't think our secondary can keep up...sad to say. As all world as Sanchez is proclaimed to b he gets burnt 2/3 times a game.
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
As usual, lots of good, valid, posts on here regarding the once mighty sooners fall from grace. There are so many reasons for it. As a high school fb coach in Oklahoma and Texas for the past 35 years, I've been very familiar with our recruits coming out of Texas and knowing they were obviously 2nd tier players, wondering just why in the heck OU is signing them. During the Switzer years and on all of our National champ squads, check out how many Okies are on the roster and contributing generously. Hardly any in sight now. Is Oklahoma high school football really that bad and is this a major factor in our recruiting problems ?
Sooners used to roll out great offensive lines on a yearly basis that excelled in both run and pass blocking and always gave great effort. We've got two tackles now that might not start for Langston. Unsound pass blocking schemes and even when we keep 2 running backs in to help pass block, they take poor angles or fail to even touch the blitzing DB or LBer. No urgency or discipline
No depth in our undersized defensive front. I'm surprised so many folks on here give our secondary a pass. They may be the least effective group on our team. Definitely the worst tackling secondary in the nation. At times, they cover well, but their slowness to react and run the alleys on run support is totally unacceptable. OU used to start the most feared, sure tackling DB's in the nation. Where have you gone, Bobby Proctor ?
I almost set my entire collection of Sooner regalia and apparel on fire today, but I opted against that action deciding it was a bit immature and Alabamian in nature.
So, turn out the lights, the party's over. Stick a fork in me. I'm done. When we can't line up and beat a crappy Texas team littered with freshman and other underachievers, it's time for drastic measures. Stoops has gotten fat and comfy and has no desire to nut up and feed the monster any longer, or he has no strategy to do so. I really don't even think he is the top head coach in the Sooner state any more.
There ya go. Good attitude. I would be okay with what you say...if we could also beat K State, Tech and orange aggy.
Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.
maybe not...but we won't stop them...so it'll be an outscore thing...I was surprised ksu could keep scoring. That concerns me for our game against ksu.
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
....It's not a lifetime appt., including Stoops Ive seen 7 coaches walking the sidelines in Norman....football at the University of Oklahoma would survive
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I've seen 9 coaches walking the sidelines in Norman. Dang, you wake up one morning and realize you're old. Not sure I'll make it for another OU/UT game...
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Their record may have said suck but they were a blown officials call against OSU and a missed PAT from being 3-2. If they are 3-2 the talk about them is completely different. Much of it is the media obsession with you're either great or horrible with nothing in between. In reality the NCAA has what they want like the NFL, a few good teams and a whole bunch of mediocre. There are no great teams any more like we grew up with, none.
I don't see how that has been debunked, in fact I think it is pretty much proven when replacing one of the coaches who has won a national championship. It seems every high profile program has had the dud after the stud and some have had multiple duds before hiring a decent coach, not even one up to the level of the one they fired. Every program seems to have struggled after the change.
If Stoops decided to step down, I would shed no tears but I just don't feel right about firing a coach that wins much more than he loses. Especially when we already know Boren and Castiglione aren't going to fire him. Nebraska still hasn't recovered and will probably always be a mid pack Big 10 program. So the question is who do you think would be the coach for the 4-5 years after Stoops and who would then replace that coach?
How many schools that have won national championships or were in the discussion have gone downhill after their legendary coach was fired, left or retired.
USC
Penn State
Michigan
Tennessee
Florida
Georgia
Nebraska
Miami
K-State (then they brought Snyder back)
BYU
Colorado
UCLA
Washington
Ohio State
Texas A&M
Texas
Some of those have never again approached the Top 10 let alone national championship discussion.
Look at where most of those big, athletic linemen live, hint....it's inside the SEC and they are going to SEC schools. It is the SEC brand and because that is the region of the country they are from. The constant promotion of the SEC by ESPN and every other network or print publication feeds that mentality. Those players are looking to be drafted and they feel a mid level SEC school (and Arkansas) gives them a better shot at getting drafted because of the SEC reputation. Wisconsin gets a bunch of average linemen, they are big but exceedingly average. Ohio State is the only Big 10 school getting pro prospect linemen.
Part of the big problem is being yoked to Texas and OSU in conference alignments. You're not going to attract the SEC level players unless you are in the SEC. Not even the ACC with some overlap attracts very many SEC type of players.
Where did you get that crystal ball that told you Texas would have won in overtime against Cal had it made the PAT?
Another blast from the past.
OUCH!
I hope you coach better than you make predictions or evaluate talent.
Hmm eliminated from contention? This turned out to be totally and completely false.
Lol this thread is fun. Remind me to listen to these guys next year for sure!!
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