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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

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    (the ones who think I'm too conservative)
    Wow...they must be some real flamers.

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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

    We see how the Rhinos have "gone along" with most every Democratic initiative. I think it is important to ask why?

    The Dems have won most every major PR battle is what it comes down to. Boehner or McConnell were not able to communicate the GOP message in a way that kept them from looking the part of the "bad guys" with their attempts to reform parts of government that need desperately to be reformed. Efforts to reform welfare were met with "Republicans want to starve little children". Efforts to reform Medicare and Medicaid were responded to with "Republican want to roll Granny over a cliff". Efforts to rein in the EPA were met with "Republicans want dirty air and dirty water". Efforts to keep tax dollars out of funding abortions was met with "Republicans have a war on women", and efforts to halt Obamacare was met with "Republicans don't want Americans to have health care" or "Republicans idea of Healthcare is for you to die young".
    Boehner was not able to effectively repudiate these ridiculous comments by the Dems, effectively losing the PR battle each and every time. Of course the mainstream media was more than willing accomplice with the Dems too.
    So nothing got done to block the Dems, and the nation has suffered because of it. The Billions of waste, fraud and abuse has served to increase the National debt to almost 19 TRILLION.
    So until the GOP gets leadership that can effectively communicate a cogent, understandable message to the American people, we will not see any substantive changes made in the way DC conducts their business. And our great Republic suffers because if it.
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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by champions77 View Post
    We see how the Rhinos have "gone along" with most every Democratic initiative. I think it is important to ask why?

    The Dems have won most every major PR battle is what it comes down to. Boehner or McConnell were not able to communicate the GOP message in a way that kept them from looking the part of the "bad guys" with their attempts to reform parts of government that need desperately to be reformed. Efforts to reform welfare were met with "Republicans want to starve little children". Efforts to reform Medicare and Medicaid were responded to with "Republican want to roll Granny over a cliff". Efforts to rein in the EPA were met with "Republicans want dirty air and dirty water". Efforts to keep tax dollars out of funding abortions was met with "Republicans have a war on women", and efforts to halt Obamacare was met with "Republicans don't want Americans to have health care" or "Republicans idea of Healthcare is for you to die young".
    Boehner was not able to effectively repudiate these ridiculous comments by the Dems, effectively losing the PR battle each and every time. Of course the mainstream media was more than willing accomplice with the Dems too.
    So nothing got done to block the Dems, and the nation has suffered because of it. The Billions of waste, fraud and abuse has served to increase the National debt to almost 19 TRILLION.
    So until the GOP gets leadership that can effectively communicate a cogent, understandable message to the American people, we will not see any substantive changes made in the way DC conducts their business. And our great Republic suffers because if it.
    no doubt...well written. One I'll talk about is PP. Defund the abortion part...but yet the dems want to make it about women's health and rights...lol. Yes, under the law they have the "right" to kill their baby....BUT let THEM pay for it. See how far it goes then.
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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

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    Defund the abortion part....

    Done and done.

    See the Hyde Amendment of 1976.

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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

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    no doubt...well written. One I'll talk about is PP. Defund the abortion part...but yet the dems want to make it about women's health and rights...lol. Yes, under the law they have the "right" to kill their baby....BUT let THEM pay for it. See how far it goes then.
    +1. Also the PP gives a lot of campaign contributions to Democratic candidates. What a deal, you fund PP with government tax dollars, then prop up Dem candidates with donations from PP.
    BHO did this a bunch with the green energy initiatives, using Tax dollars to support the Solendra's of the world, then Solendra supported Dems with campaign contributions. It is all so slimy and unethical. It needs to stop, I don't care what party is doing it. It used to be called a "conflict of interest" and was illegal, if not unethical.
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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by rock on sooner View Post
    Welp, if you thought Congress was in gridlock, just wait. It's gonna get
    a lot worse.....
    Good!
    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.

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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

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    Done and done.

    See the Hyde Amendment of 1976.

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    Every red state audit of PP has verified this as true. The most recent is Missouri.

    Funny how the basic facts are lost on most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champions77 View Post
    +1. Also the PP gives a lot of campaign contributions to Democratic candidates. What a deal, you fund PP with government tax dollars, then prop up Dem candidates with donations from PP.
    BHO did this a bunch with the green energy initiatives, using Tax dollars to support the Solendra's of the world, then Solendra supported Dems with campaign contributions. It is all so slimy and unethical. It needs to stop, I don't care what party is doing it. It used to be called a "conflict of interest" and was illegal, if not unethical.
    I'm sure you were appalled by the Citizens United ruling, right?

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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaii 5-0 View Post
    I was being a bit sarcastic myself. I allow several of my Liberal friends (the ones who think I'm too conservative) to see the antics posted on this Bored.

    Besides the humorous rants of the neo-cons they really love the 12 year olds Toad and Curly Sue.


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    You allow?

    How very magnanimous of you.

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    Done and done.

    See the Hyde Amendment of 1976.

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    4. Since the Hyde Amendment passed, only four states have voluntarily decided to use their funds to cover abortion. Another 13 states are required to do so by court order, just as they would other forms of health care. Thirty-two states and the District of Columbia basically follow the Hyde Amendment as the congressman intended, with some small variations. One state, South Dakota, only pays for abortion when a woman’s life is in danger, but not in cases of rape and incest — an apparent violation of federal law.

    Apparently 17 states still use taxpayer money for abortions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerjeepman View Post
    4. Since the Hyde Amendment passed, only four states have voluntarily decided to use their funds to cover abortion. Another 13 states are required to do so by court order, just as they would other forms of health care. Thirty-two states and the District of Columbia basically follow the Hyde Amendment as the congressman intended, with some small variations. One state, South Dakota, only pays for abortion when a woman’s life is in danger, but not in cases of rape and incest — an apparent violation of federal law.

    Apparently 17 states still use taxpayer money for abortions...
    Some states utilize other funds on their own volition to pay for some abortions. Oklahoma does not. I'm sure there's a strong correlation to red/blue states.

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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerjeepman View Post
    4.

    Apparently
    17 states still use taxpayer money for abortions...


    But not via Planned Parenthood.

    Some interesting testimony on CSpan today about funding Planned Parenthood. Seems the Committee wants to make judgment without even seeing the unedited video condemning Planned Parenthood.


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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

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    I'm sure you were appalled by the Citizens United ruling, right?
    No not really, more appalled by the lack of integrity of the politicians we elect these days. Aren't you?

    You know beginning with the Administrations of Bill Clinton, we had a segment of the population that dismissed the nefarious and tawdry conduct of Bill Clinton. We heard everything from I didn't vote to elect a Pastor, I voted to elect a President. The case was made that as long as ole Bill did his job well, then what he did (behind the scenes, including the oval office I presume) was okay, that all the banter about morals and integrity really didn't matter? Of course these assertions were made by....Democrats. They were the first to "relax" the morals standards that had been in place since Washington, at least to the extent seen in Bill Clinton.
    I never understood why Dems were so forgiving of their beloved Bill, at least to the flawed notion that if he was doing a good job then what does it matter? What does it matter? If you will screw around on your wife, then most likely you will screw around on the Nation, and do things behind the scenes that are not in the country's best interest. Why is that so hard for a Dem to understand? Being a scumbag does not mean you only become one at 5:00. You are one 24/7.
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    No not really, more appalled by the lack of integrity of the politicians we elect these days. Aren't you?

    You know beginning with the Administrations of Bill Clinton, we had a segment of the population that dismissed the nefarious and tawdry conduct of Bill Clinton. We heard everything from I didn't vote to elect a Pastor, I voted to elect a President. The case was made that as long as ole Bill did his job well, then what he did (behind the scenes, including the oval office I presume) was okay, that all the banter about morals and integrity really didn't matter? Of course these assertions were made by....Democrats. They were the first to "relax" the morals standards that had been in place since Washington, at least to the extent seen in Bill Clinton.
    I never understood why Dems were so forgiving of their beloved Bill, at least to the flawed notion that if he was doing a good job then what does it matter? What does it matter? If you will screw around on your wife, then most likely you will screw around on the Nation, and do things behind the scenes that are not in the country's best interest. Why is that so hard for a Dem to understand? Being a scumbag does not mean you only become one at 5:00. You are one 24/7.
    Clinton, in so far as how he governed post-94, was the most politically conservative President since Ronald Reagan. I'd cut off my left ball sack to have Clinton rather than Obama or W. Bush.

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    On another matter, I've said before I'm conflicted about abortion. I oppose it after the fetus becomes viable, but I don't understand the extreme pro-life position here. Given the number of impoverished out-of-wedlock minority births, why do you want these sacks of cells to be born only to grow up and become street thugs who steal your **** and slit your throat walking out of a restaurant for the $20 bucks in cash you may have in your wallet? **** them, if you ask me. I'd rather their mothers give them the coat hanger treatment well before it comes to that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champions77 View Post
    No not really, more appalled by the lack of integrity of the politicians we elect these days. Aren't you?

    You know beginning with the Administrations of Bill Clinton, we had a segment of the population that dismissed the nefarious and tawdry conduct of Bill Clinton. We heard everything from I didn't vote to elect a Pastor, I voted to elect a President. The case was made that as long as ole Bill did his job well, then what he did (behind the scenes, including the oval office I presume) was okay, that all the banter about morals and integrity really didn't matter? Of course these assertions were made by....Democrats. They were the first to "relax" the morals standards that had been in place since Washington, at least to the extent seen in Bill Clinton.
    I never understood why Dems were so forgiving of their beloved Bill, at least to the flawed notion that if he was doing a good job then what does it matter? What does it matter? If you will screw around on your wife, then most likely you will screw around on the Nation, and do things behind the scenes that are not in the country's best interest. Why is that so hard for a Dem to understand? Being a scumbag does not mean you only become one at 5:00. You are one 24/7.
    I have long contended that the Clinton "administration" was the beginning of the dems realizing they can get away with practically anything, and will not be destroyed, nor even badly damaged by the Media. Clinton was so corrupt and didn't really try to hide it much, because he realized the Media was actively on his side.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    Clinton, in so far as how he governed post-94, was the most politically conservative President since Ronald Reagan. I'd cut off my left ball sack to have Clinton rather than Obama or W. Bush.

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    On another matter, I've said before I'm conflicted about abortion. I oppose it after the fetus becomes viable, but I don't understand the extreme pro-life position here. Given the number of impoverished out-of-wedlock minority births, why do you want these sacks of cells to be born only to grow up and become street thugs who steal your **** and slit your throat walking out of a restaurant for the $20 bucks in cash you may have in your wallet? **** them, if you ask me. I'd rather their mothers give them the coat hanger treatment well before it comes to that point.
    Google up Johnny Chung and get back to me. The Chinese stole nuclear secrets about this time. Only a fool would not believe they were related. What you don't know is what will burn you when you have a dirty politician. Clinton was more of a politician than he was a liberal. It was all about getting re-elected, and he would compromise if it was politically expedient. But make no mistake about it, he makes Richard Nixon look like a Saint.
    That so called "sack of cells" could have been you. Please don't complain when our Nationalized Healthcare deems someone in their 70's as too old to use government assets on a heart value replacement operation. If you kill babies, you will let older folks die too. All for the greater good of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by champions77 View Post
    If you will screw around on your wife, then most likely you will screw around on the Nation, and do things behind the scenes that are not in the country's best interest.



    Seems a lot more than a bit of a stretch.

    Men (and women) have been cheating on their spouses since the Dawn of Man.


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    Re: Oh Happy Day: Boehner Resigns from His Speakership And Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaii 5-0 View Post
    Seems a lot more than a bit of a stretch.

    Men (and women) have been cheating on their spouses since the Dawn of Man.


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    lying under oath, adultery, obstruction of justice, hobnobbing with Chinese Nationalist tied into the Chinese Military. I mean Bill paved the way for the lying nut we have for President today.
    Call me old fashioned, but I don't associate with liars. When you can't believe anything anyone tells you it's not ok, and most people will choose to avoid those types of people. So we have a standard. So then why is that standard lowered when it comes to the President of the United States? I don't get it.
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    That's a sweet argument that you've got there. Not only do you get to blame your adversary for their shortcomings, you get to blame them for the shortcomings of your side as well.

    Well played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by champions77 View Post
    lying under oath, adultery, obstruction of justice, hobnobbing with Chinese Nationalist tied into the Chinese Military. I mean Bill paved the way for the lying nut we have for President today.
    Call me old fashioned, but I don't associate with liars. When you can't believe anything anyone tells you it's not ok, and most people will choose to avoid those types of people. So we have a standard. So then why is that standard lowered when it comes to the President of the United States? I don't get it.
    Democrats hold the power of government as the singular most important thing there is. ANYTHING goes to accomplish their goal. It is a religion to them, and guess who the enemy is in their minds. That's what there is to get.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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