Baylor coach on Tulsa sidelines this Saturday; against NCAA rules

[badger]

Art Briles... or Art Belichick?
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...ea76be352.html

Baylor assistant coach Jeff Lebby was on the Tulsa sideline during Saturday’s game at Oklahoma. Bob Stoops, during his Monday press conference, said he wasn’t aware of his presence until after the contest.

Lebby’s attendance would break NCAA bylaw 11.6.1 which prohibits off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents.

“I didn’t find that out until after the game,” Stoops said. “That’s a pretty fundamental rule. That’s not allowed. I don’t know what he was doing here.”

Bob Stoops will downplay it today because he's teaching his team to not have excuses, which I've always enjoyed. The rest of us should cast the first stone immediately

Cheaters. There. I said it. I think they were cheating. I think they were hoping to not get caught and I think they knew exactly what they were doing. Good riddance to not being able to schedule Tulsa again until 2020 at the earliest. I love TU, but the Baylor Belichicks need to get penalized for this.

Let's suspend their quarterback for four games

[IslandSooner]

I have a hard time believing Briles wasn't involved to some degree

[BetterSoonerThanLater]

of course he knows....thats exaclty the kind of **** he would do

[CincySooner]

Hmmm... the fact that Lebby was on the sidelines means one of two things
1) Tulsa invited Lebby and he said "yes", knowing it's against the rules
2) or Lebby/Baylor called Tulsa and they said "ok", knowing it's against the rules

Either way, both schools broke the rules. I don't expect much in the way of a penalty. You really have to wonder why he was even there. I can't see a competitive advantage for Baylor at all... I mean the game is 2 months away. I like Tulsa, but is it possible that Tulsa was trying to gain an advantage by having him there?

[tycat947]

of course he knows....thats exaclty the kind of **** he would do

Big 12 needs enema to rid itself of sh** called Hypocrite U! What a scumbag pretend institution!

[aurorasooner]

Baylor assistant coach Jeff Lebby was on the Tulsa sideline during Saturday’s game at Oklahoma.

While I would be more concerned if we played Baylor next week or in the next couple of weeks, I think the bigger question is, did Lebby fleece our Athletic Dept out of one of those free concession vouchers as well ? That would really pizz off our season ticket holders.

[rock on sooner]

Wonder how loud the cry would be if one of OUr assistants was on an
upcoming opponent's sideline?.......

[SicEmBaylor]

He shouldn't have been there. That was absolutely a mistake, but the idea that he was 'scouting' to gather information and report back is absolute nonsense. Monty and CAB routinely talk to one another, they're close friends, and obviously Monty is going to hand over every bit of film and information that may be valuable to us when we play OU. We don't need an assistant to risk that much for absolutely no gain.

He was there to support Monty and the TU coaching staff. He's an OU alumni and played for OU and my understanding is that he wanted to show his wife around Norman and the campus. Briles called Stoops and personally apologized. Much ado about nothing.

[KantoSooner]

Probably depends on the upcoming opponent. Most would respond about like Stoops. Disapproval, but not ballistic. Baylor themselves would have crapped their shorts, wrapped themselves in the flag and begun praying (loudly and checking first to make sure they were on camera) for Bob's immortal soul. Texas and Kansas would probably have just sighed wearily and continued preparing for whoever was scheduled to kick their azzes next week.

[badger]

Texas and Kansas would probably have just sighed wearily and continued preparing for whoever was scheduled to kick their azzes next week

That's what they do Mondays. Sunday's the day of rest

Also, I am not outraged about this. They cheated, but they may very well run circles around our defense regardless. My holiday plans no longer revolve around what bowl OU goes to, so whether we go 8-5 or 14-0 is of no consequence to me. I would really like to see the NCAA and NFL enforce their rules a little better, however

[SicEmBaylor]

Also, I am not outraged about this. They cheated, but they may very well run circles around our defense regardless. My holiday plans no longer revolve around what bowl OU goes to, so whether we go 8-5 or 14-0 is of no consequence to me. I would really like to see the NCAA and NFL enforce their rules a little better, however

Serious question, aside from the actual violation, what sort of information do you think he was getting by personally being on the sideline that our staff wouldn't get anyway from Monty directly? Everything he could possibly tell CAB about the game will be told to him directly from Montgomery, so I can't see what anyone thinks the guy got out of being there.

It is as I said -- he was supporting the TU staff and showing his wife around campus.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

There is no benefit to Tulsa for him being on that sideline..None.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

There is no reason for anyone to be present to scout in an age were any of us can scout the next game from our own toilet..

[SicEmBaylor]

There is no benefit to Tulsa for him being on that sideline..None.

There's no benefit for us either.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

Lebby was an OU athlete and student coach who roomed with Runnels btw.

[SicEmBaylor]

It was very poor judgement, but it wasn't cheating.

[KantoSooner]

It may have even been cheating, but meaningless, Hillary style cheating for cheating' sake more than actual results oriented cheating.

[stoops the eternal pimp]

I wasn't implying there any benefit to anyone..Just most of the people talking said he was there to help Tulsa, not scout for Baylor.

Because you know, you can just show up at a field, and another team's players will start taking direction from you on the fly.

[SicEmBaylor]

Aye. If they could prove he was giving direction to the players then I'd have a huge ****ing problem with one of our coaches coaching another team. That's a fireable offense if there ever was one. But, I don't think Montgomery would allow that. It would undermine his own coaches, for one thing, and I don't think he'd have much to contribute beyond what existing TU coaches can do.

[mainline13]

That's what they do Mondays. Sunday's the day of rest

Also, I am not outraged about this. They cheated, but they may very well run circles around our defense regardless. My holiday plans no longer revolve around what bowl OU goes to, so whether we go 8-5 or 14-0 is of no consequence to me. I would really like to see the NCAA and NFL enforce their rules a little better, however

It does kind of remind me of the PI towards the end of the Tennessee game. Their fans say "uncatchable," and we say "we don't know that, since he never had the chance to jump."

Baylor has kicked us pretty good lately, but if there is any possibility of gaining extra insight, unavailable on film, by attending the game - then we may never know if they would have kicked us around anyway. And if there isn't any extra insight to be gained, then why is it a rule at all?

Other than that, I do wish that rules (pretty much all of them, everywhere) would either be applied universally or be dropped / cancelled / deleted / whatever.