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    More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/02/repor...n-welfare.html
    More than half of the nation's immigrants receive some kind of government welfare, a figure that's far higher than the native-born population, according to a report to be released Wednesday. About 51% of immigrant-led households receive at least one kind of welfare benefit, including Medicaid, food stamps, school lunches and housing assistance, compared to 30% for native-led households, according to the report from the Center for Immigration Studies, a group that advocates for lower levels of immigration.

    Those numbers increase for households with children, with 76% of immigrant-led households receiving welfare, compared to 52% for the native-born.

    Apparently our official motto is:

    "Just come to the US and let the tax payers throw another shrimp on the barbie for you!"
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Article continues the myth that immigrant groups eventually become middle class. Love when they use immigrant groups who came here before the welfare system was establish and try to make the comparison to today's immigrants.

    Dear dipsh*ts,
    The reason immigrant groups in the early 20th century pulled themselves into the middle class is that - THEY HAD NO OTHER CHOICE! No one gave a sh*t about them, so they had to work.

    Fast forward a century. Those that come here now have a program for everything. And, as far as Mexican immigrants, they are not getting better educated.

    The immigrants getting worthwhile educations are the Indians, Pakistanis, Middle Easterners, Near Easterners, West Africans, Israelis, Russians, and Asians of all stripe. It's not the Mexicans.
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    Article continues the myth that immigrant groups eventually become middle class. Love when they use immigrant groups who came here before the welfare system was establish and try to make the comparison to today's immigrants.

    Dear dipsh*ts,
    The reason immigrant groups in the early 20th century pulled themselves into the middle class is that - THEY HAD NO OTHER CHOICE! No one gave a sh*t about them, so they had to work.

    Fast forward a century. Those that come here now have a program for everything. And, as far as Mexican immigrants, they are not getting better educated.

    The immigrants getting worthwhile educations are the Indians, Pakistanis, Middle Easterners, Near Easterners, West Africans, Israelis, Russians, and Asians of all stripe. It's not the Mexicans.
    Linda Chavez, just another RINO squish. The report doesn't spin the statistics. Ms. Chavez does.

    I believe Big corporate America and their sycophants in the establishment GOP are just as evil as the Democrats. The Democrats want new , entitlement-addicted voters for their party and the coporations want cheap labor subsidized by US taxpayers(current and future).
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    Yep, 3rd world here we come... Get your plans for your walled compound, razorwire ready and you be responsible for your safety. Be sure to thank a Liberal or Progressive as well.
    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    Article continues the myth that immigrant groups eventually become middle class. Love when they use immigrant groups who came here before the welfare system was establish and try to make the comparison to today's immigrants.

    Dear dipsh*ts,
    The reason immigrant groups in the early 20th century pulled themselves into the middle class is that - THEY HAD NO OTHER CHOICE! No one gave a sh*t about them, so they had to work.

    Fast forward a century. Those that come here now have a program for everything. And, as far as Mexican immigrants, they are not getting better educated.

    The immigrants getting worthwhile educations are the Indians, Pakistanis, Middle Easterners, Near Easterners, West Africans, Israelis, Russians, and Asians of all stripe. It's not the Mexicans.
    That's part of the reason why. The other reason why has to do with population. We were a relatively young country with an enormous amount of space and a relatively small population -- we didn't have a labor pool large enough for all of the jobs that needed to be done. That's why earlier immigration worked -- the job market was wide open and there was plenty of room within society for families to grow beyond their initial means. That's no longer the case today. For any number of reasons, most of which you mentioned, growth into the middle class is much more difficult. The labor market is not what it used to be.

    What astounds me about liberals is that they always insist conservatives are holding on to old ideas and old policies and need to progress. Liberals, at least as far as immigration is concerned, are clinging to early 20th and late 19th century policies and refusing to progress!

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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    If the GOP nominee will put forth a well communicated cogent message, citing an irrefutable message of statistics and data of how egregiously adverse to the welfare of our Nation illegal immigration truly is, this issue is a huge winner for the GOP.
    Let's hope our nominee has the nads to do it.
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    How about a solution that is actually pragmatic and not some nonsense about mass deportation

    Do you really want to trade illegals for some police state?

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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    How about a solution that is actually pragmatic and not some nonsense about mass deportation

    Do you really want to trade illegals for some police state?
    illegal entry is a crime, and we expect our laws to be followed. Those include immigration. What's the real beef?
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    not immigration but a bit on how screwed up our gov is...

    My fiance works with low income families with children that have issues, mainly autism. She has a family, as bad as it seems - dad is in prison, the mom is working, "owns" her home..has a pos car, Mom WANTS to work...the gov took her WIC, and now tells her "quit working and get on gov asst and you'll have all you need"...she was seriously TOLD this.

    The woman does NOT want to live off the gov but needs some help right now. That is who I would help...
    How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!

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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    How about a solution that is actually pragmatic and not some nonsense about mass deportation
    Your way works so well... Just look at Europe. Hungary, Germany, France, UK all in a big mess. Police your own borders, let people in legally and sparingly...
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Sounds like a Paul Krugman economic plan.

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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    How about a solution that is actually pragmatic and not some nonsense about mass deportation

    Do you really want to trade illegals for some police state?
    If we enforce immigration laws already in existence, we are a police state?
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by champions77 View Post
    If the GOP nominee will put forth a well communicated cogent message, citing an irrefutable message of statistics and data of how egregiously adverse to the welfare of our Nation illegal immigration truly is, this issue is a huge winner for the GOP.
    Let's hope our nominee has the nads to do it.
    That's the problem. No GOP candidate will do it...and, so...Trump.

    The GOP is so eager for someone within their ranks to grow a pair that they will turn to Trump. Everyone else tiptoes around issues because they are career politicians and, therefore, unwilling to rankle to status quo. That is where this "pathway to citizenship" nonsense arises.

    If you've broken the law, you've broken the law, citizen or not. Enforce the immigration laws we already have and this wouldn't be a problem.

    But, we have the idiot Chamber of Commerce and businesses and individuals of all stripe enticing the Mexicans and Central Americans to come over here illegally.

    The GOP base took too long to figure out that the Chamber of Commerce and many businesses were full of sh*t.

    Trump is where he is because he has tapped into the resentment that millions of people feel about having their government - federal, state, and local - turn their communities over to illegal immigrants and handing them billions of our tax dollars every year in welfare benefits and the cost of prosecuting and incarcerating their criminals.
    "General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    I have no problem penalizing ANYONE for hiring an illegal. Make it a stiff penalty. I also have no problem NOT giving benefits to illegals. If we removed the incentive they'd leave.

    Does that make me a Republican?

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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I have no problem penalizing ANYONE for hiring an illegal. Make it a stiff penalty. I also have no problem NOT giving benefits to illegals. If we removed the incentive they'd leave.

    Does that make me a Republican?
    No, it makes you a person who wants to immigration laws already on book to be enforced. We already have laws punishing businesses for hiring illegals, but they are rarely enforced.

    Do you see police or legislators standing around 7-11 stopping work trucks from picking up the illegals standing around their waiting for work? No.

    What you have is cities caving into the illegals and setting up work station to help them wait! It's f*cking crazy. There was a whole story about it in the Dallas Morning News yesterday.
    "General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I have no problem penalizing ANYONE for hiring an illegal. Make it a stiff penalty. I also have no problem NOT giving benefits to illegals. If we removed the incentive they'd leave.

    Does that make me a Republican?
    Only if you want to be one.

    There is so little difference between the two parties around the center on issues that IMO, it doesn't make much difference. It's on the edges of both where the nuts resides that there is any tangible differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwarthog View Post
    Only if you want to be one.

    There is so little difference between the two parties around the center on issues that IMO, it doesn't make much difference. It's on the edges of both where the nuts resides that there is any tangible differences.
    I say roughly the same thing and Rush loses a gasket. Careful, the ice is thin out here.

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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I say roughly the same thing and Rush loses a gasket. Careful, the ice is thin out here.
    Thanks. I'll now retract those statements due to the fact my keyboard was commandeered by unknown forces, probably vile liberal forces, and those words appeared instead of what I actually typed.

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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I have no problem penalizing ANYONE for hiring an illegal. Make it a stiff penalty. I also have no problem NOT giving benefits to illegals. If we removed the incentive they'd leave.

    Does that make me a Republican?
    ----No it means you not an idiot
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    Re: More Than 50% Of Immigrants In The US Receive Assistance From The Government

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    If we enforce immigration laws already in existence, we are a police state?
    according to democrats and RINOS we are denying an act of love...and not risking civil strife.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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