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    Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    http://www.grumpypolitico.com/2015/0...ublican-party/

    Everyone should be firm enough in their convictions and honest enough with themselves to take their vote elsewhere if the choice is unacceptable.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    http://www.grumpypolitico.com/2015/0...ublican-party/

    Everyone should be firm enough in their convictions and honest enough with themselves to take their vote elsewhere if the choice is unacceptable.
    Unfortunately for a lot of us that's a recipe for unwanted social change since conservatives are in hand-to-hand political combat with the 'Big Tent' party

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    I'm starting to see things more and more SicEm's way. If the pubs nominate someone along the lines of Bush or Christie, there's an excellent chance I'll vote 3rd party.
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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    I have no problem bolting from a party that bolted from me.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    I'll vote for whoever is closest to what I believe, be it 3rd party, Rep or Dem.

    I will add unless the 3rd party can pull in Dem's (which I doubt, because they will be fiscally conservative and somewhat socially conservative which won't work for the Dem) this is the dem's dream come true. Split the GOP so they don't have to battle them.
    How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerjeepman View Post

    I will add unless the 3rd party can pull in Dem's (which I doubt, because they will be fiscally conservative and somewhat socially conservative which won't work for the Dem) this is the dem's dream come true. Split the GOP so they don't have to battle them.
    This is reality. 3rd party voting is a recipe for yet another democrat win, and even more guaranteed authoritarian socialism. No, I don't expect Sicem nor any libertarians to ever accept that, nor apparently to really even care.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    This is reality. 3rd party voting is a recipe for yet another democrat win, and even more guaranteed authoritarian socialism. No, I don't expect Sicem nor any libertarians to ever accept that, nor apparently to really even care.
    My vote for Perot in 1996 was similar, just the other direction.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    My vote for Perot in 1996 was similar, just the other direction.
    Nobody has asserted 100% of the democrats will vote democrat in the general...but, pretty close to it.

    Nice try, though.
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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    My vote for Perot in 1996 was similar, just the other direction.
    I never voted directly* for a Clinton.

    *My Perot vote in 1992 helped BillC, and was pretty much irrelevant in 1996. It wasn't for liberal purity, though. Mostly for Perot's stand on NAFTA and (IIRC) in general trying to get away from two-party politics.
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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    I have and will continue to cross Party lines to vote for the candidate who represents my beliefs.

    If I don't like either, I'll vote for the lesser of the two evils.

    If it's 3rd party, so be it.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    Nobody has asserted 100% of the democrats will vote democrat in the general...but, pretty close to it.

    Nice try, though.
    Dude, I'm just saying that third party candidates appeal to both sides. I wasn't painting with as broad brush as you typically like to implement. That said, I think if Nader had not have run under the Green Party in 2000 that your good buddy Al Gore would have won. Anarchy!!!

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Dude, I'm just saying that third party candidates appeal to both sides. I wasn't painting with as broad brush as you typically like to implement. That said, I think if Nader had not have run under the Green Party in 2000 that your good buddy Al Gore would have won. Anarchy!!!
    Bush won Florida by under 600 votes. Nader got 97,488 votes. Typically, those folks were Dems. You should totally show Trump.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Nader was/is a Leftist and did hurt algore. That was the only time I've seen in my life where a 3rd party candidate was perceived as leftist or more leftist than the democrat.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    If the Republican nominee is so bad that a third of the entire GOP base votes 3rd party then how good of a President would that ******* actually be? Why on Earth do you think that individual would be preferable, in any way, to the alternatives?

    Let me assure you: If enough conservatives refuse to support the Republican nominee that it hands the election to the Democrat then it doesn't matter a hill of beans whether the Republicans win the White House or not. Any Republican that bad deserves to lose. Just like in business, a company that puts out a terrible product that the public rejects is going to go out of business. It isn't the public's fault -- it's the product's fault.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    True that W did a bunch of things that went along with the democrats, especially in his second term. A true test of whether there's any hope left in the republican party(A. you KNOW FOR SURE there isn't in the democrat party, and B. with the repubs controlling the presidency, with even a RINO who does SOME things right, and the House and Senate, we can put pressure on the government to behave properly. If the repubs still behave almost as anti-American as the democrats, THEN it's the end and time for all hell to break loose.

    Katy bar the door, as they used to say, gird your loins, 3rd party, riots, blockades, strikes, stockpiling and fences etc.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    True that W did a bunch of things that went along with the democrats, especially in his second term. A true test of whether there's any hope left in the republican party(A. you KNOW FOR SURE there isn't in the democrat party, and B. with the repubs controlling the presidency, with even a RINO who does SOME things right, and the House and Senate, we can put pressure on the government to behave properly. If the repubs still behave almost as anti-American as the democrats, THEN it's the end and time for all hell to break loose.

    Katy bar the door, as they used to say, gird your loins, 3rd party, riots, blockades, strikes, stockpiling and fences etc.
    We've had this discussion before. What you call "going along with Democrats" were the cornerstones of Bush's entire agenda. They were the most important legislative proposals in either of Bush's two terms, and it had absolutely nothing to do with the Democrats. In fact, nothing worth note even happened after the Democrats took Congress.

    No Child Left Behind -- Bush policy.
    Medicare Prescription Drug Entitlement Expansion -- Bush policy.
    His cluster**** of a foreign policy -- Bush policy.
    Faith Based Initiative -- Bush policy.
    The creation of an entirely new cabinet-level agency (DHS) -- Bush policy.
    The expansion of government surveillance and disregard for the Bill of Rights -- Bush policy.
    Campaign Finance Reform -- Bush policy.
    Liberal nation-building policies -- Bush policy.

    No. No, there was nothing conservative about President Bush's administration. He was a disaster for this country, a disaster for what it means to be a conservative, and a disaster for the Republican Party.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    3rd party with a perceived conservative is a recipe for disaster, a sign the citizenry is ready to riot and break down the economy completely. I know it. You know it. Everybody SHOULD know it.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    ... nothing worth note even happened after the Democrats took Congress.

    insured the final touches of the forced mortgages to unqualified people, causing financial collapse, got ready to enact Obamacare, and when Bear won in '08, slammed the coffin shut with the passing of Obamacare.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    You are a fool if you think voting third party will bring any chance of bringing peaceful change.
    Last edited by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!; 8/11/2015 at 08:49 PM.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Poll Says 1/3 of Republicans Ready to Bolt Party

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    You are a fool if you think voting third party will bring any chance of bringing peaceful change.
    You seem to be implying that Republicans are uncivilized barbarians that will take to the streets with weapons if the elections don't go their way. Sort of an extreme example of poor sportsmanship. Are you sure you're not projecting? All the Republicans I know are quite law abiding and will just work toward the next election.

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