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While I agree we need better mental healthcare in this country, I can't think of a single mass-shooting occurrence where greater mental healthcare would have made a difference. Adam Lanza comes close. The problem is that you have to legally demonstrate a person is a threat to themselves or society. None of these shooters met that definition prior to their rampage -- again, Lanza came close. You can't just deprive someone of their constitutional right to own a firearm or deny them their liberty because they have some sort of mental health problem. You also can't force them into treatment; they have to recognize they have a problem and want to be treated.
The fact is, we have a Constitutional right to own firearms. Here's the truth of the situation: We live in a free country (ostensibly) with 320 million people. These sort of mass shooting events seem more frequent than they are because of the media attention they get. It's actually incredibly rare, and the chances of being shot in such an event are minuscule. You have to accept the fact that these sorts of things are going to happen in any free society -- there's no way to prevent it. You can ban guns and have the best mental facilities in the world, but this would still happen in some shape, form, or fashion. Suggesting Americans be deprived of one of their most sacred Constitutional rights, because of the actions of a very small percentage of the population, is simply unjust.
The real problem is a growing lack of respect for the sanctity of human life and a culture that is increasingly narcissistic.
I think that slightly misses the point of the mental health aspect of the argument, but in the end I agree.
If someone wants to kill some people they will find a way
And then media outlets will make them a household name for a few months, just like they wanted.
They give the bastards exactly what they could never have otherwise, fame and notoriety. That goes back to my point about a narcissistic culture. Everyone has to have that fame and some people do whatever they can to get it. What's interesting is that there were mass shootings before Columbine, but Columbine really seems to be case-zero in all of this. The Columbine shooters, I believe, had what they believed were legitimate beefs with classmates. They were seeking retribution not necessarily fame. So many shootings after that weren't really about how the shooters were treated at school or by the community -- it was all about garnering fame.
People are ****ed up. I keep hoping these people will eat a bullet alone in a basement somewhere and stop taking dozens of innocents with them.
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
Back to the original question at hand: has Megan Kelly disproved Trump's assertion yet?
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.
You are exactly right. Absent a gun, then a knife? A bomb? A car driven into a group of people? With 300 million guns and rifles in this country, confiscating someone's guns would make rounding up 11 Million lawbreakers look easy. So they next time some nutjob kills someone, Mr. President, let's not use that as a political tool to push your agenda. Let's free up some funds for mental health by putting non-violent offenders in some type of community service, or a fine, and begin to institutionalize the mentally ill, at least the ones that are prone to violent behavior, like the crazy nut son that stabbed his Dad to death at the Braum's in OKC a week or so ago. He was acutely insane, and everyone knew it. But he was allowed to roam the streets and now Oklahoma has a dead Labor Commissioner to show for it.
With the billions we spend on illegals in this country every year, it would be nice to spend that money on mental health, instead of educating, incarcerating and providing medical treatment to those breaking our laws.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-----Winston Churchill
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
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Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.
She simply confronted Trump for stuff that some of you were already critical of him regarding. In short, he says crap that gets him in trouble. Look at the blowup that he had with the Univision journalist. In three minutes he had mis-remembered what had happened in the blow up. I think they were both a little out of line. I don't think Kelly asked him anything that a public person like himself, who's done TV as much as he has, should be able to ask.
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
President Ronald Reagan at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
I guess Ramos couldn't remember his own name because it was never called.
The videos showed what happened in the Ramos incident. Ramos thought he was "entitled" cut in front of other journalists and then continue to speak over the other journalists while being disruptive to the press conference. Thank goodness security showed him the door.
Ramos can hardly be described as a journalist...activist would be a better fit.
Amen 52. You know there is something wrong when an "activist" like Ramos can come to a press conference and exude a self righteous, indignation of Donald Trump's position, all the while he supports millions that have come here, disrespecting our laws, fully aware of the US laws they were breaking, knowing the potential existed for them to be deported, and somehow Trump is the bad guy in all of this? Ramos has transitioned the wrongdoers from the illegals to those that would choose to enforce US Laws. Amazing when you think of it. Ramos should be operating from a position of weakness, not strength. But our wonderful media, and of course the left, makes him out to be the good guy somehow.
Deport 11 million? No problem, they will leave on their own? How? Employers in the US that knowingly hire illegals are in my mind "accomplices" in the crime, and therefore should be dealt with as criminals. If an employer is found to employ someone here illegally, then they will be subject to a huge fine, say $10,000. I would increase the number of Border patrol agents, and cycle them on and off the border. While not on the border, they can check on businesses to see if they are in compliance. You would not have to fine many businesses in order for employers to learn that the US Government is serious for a change about border enforcement. They would cease hiring illegals and would lay them off, not choosing to take that risk. This could be done in phases over time that would allow employers to find replacement employees.
Before this is set into motion, build that fence!!
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-----Winston Churchill