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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Grover Cleveland is the last President with fewer executive orders per year. He left office in 1897.
    It isn't the number of executive orders that's the problem. Executive orders are a proper and even necessary tool for any President. The problem is, Executive orders were intended as a means by which the President executes the law as written by Congress. There are times when Congress fails to describe the methods or means by which a law is to be enforced -- for that, we have executive orders. They allow the President to create the framework by which he enforces the law.

    This President's use of executive orders is entirely different. He has used them to defy the will of Congress, arbitrarily re-define statutory law, and most egregious...create law out of absolute thin air.

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    It isn't the number of executive orders that's the problem. Executive orders are a proper and even necessary tool for any President. The problem is, Executive orders were intended as a means by which the President executes the law as written by Congress. There are times when Congress fails to describe the methods or means by which a law is to be enforced -- for that, we have executive orders. They allow the President to create the framework by which he enforces the law.

    This President's use of executive orders is entirely different. He has used them to defy the will of Congress, arbitrarily re-define statutory law, and most egregious...create law out of absolute thin air.
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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Guys, of course he would win; but, it doesn't have anything to do with being a good president. The demographics are such that Ohio, Virginia, and Florida are no longer in play for Republicans. So, it doesn't matter who the Democrats or Republicans run, the Democrat will win.

    It will eventually be the same in America as it is in places like Venezuela - the poor and stupid so far outnumber the sane and responsible that you have Chavez and Bus Driver being elected and re-elected time after time...no matter how poorly the country is faring!

    Castro never lost an election in Cuba despite running it into the ground for decades. It was never his problem - it was the United States' fault. There is always someone else to blame for bad socialist policy - "the rich."

    This has already happened in 2012 here. In 2016, you will hear the same theme: economy isn't doing well/not growing as fast as it should, underemployment/unemployment...but, it's the fault of "the rich" not the people in power.

    As long as there enough poor and stupid to sell jealousy to, the Democrats will win. It doesn't matter that they run the country down. Look no further than Detroit for the model as well - city run into the ground, idiots there still vote for the Democrats that put them there.

    This isn't rocket science, folks. The poor and stupid simply outnumbered everyone else now in the states that count. You can thank the Bushes, Clinton, and Obama and their collective immigration policies for it.
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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Again, reference Idiocracy. Look at Venezuela's bus driver president and Idiocracy president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. Venezuela is just ahead of us as far as electing 110% Idiocracy types.

    We are getting closer, though. Obama had a paper thin background. At least the bus driver in Venezuela really had a job one time driving a bus. That's one more job than Obama ever had.

    We're getting there, folks. Just be prepared.
    "General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    Again, reference Idiocracy. Look at Venezuela's bus driver president and Idiocracy president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. Venezuela is just ahead of us as far as electing 110% Idiocracy types.

    We are getting closer, though. Obama had a paper thin background. At least the bus driver in Venezuela really had a job one time driving a bus. That's one more job than Obama ever had.

    We're getting there, folks. Just be prepared.
    So, I'm going to label you "glass half empty".

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    Guys, of course he would win; but, it doesn't have anything to do with being a good president. The demographics are such that Ohio, Virginia, and Florida are no longer in play for Republicans. So, it doesn't matter who the Democrats or Republicans run, the Democrat will win.

    It will eventually be the same in America as it is in places like Venezuela - the poor and stupid so far outnumber the sane and responsible that you have Chavez and Bus Driver being elected and re-elected time after time...no matter how poorly the country is faring!

    Castro never lost an election in Cuba despite running it into the ground for decades. It was never his problem - it was the United States' fault. There is always someone else to blame for bad socialist policy - "the rich."

    This has already happened in 2012 here. In 2016, you will hear the same theme: economy isn't doing well/not growing as fast as it should, underemployment/unemployment...but, it's the fault of "the rich" not the people in power.

    As long as there enough poor and stupid to sell jealousy to, the Democrats will win. It doesn't matter that they run the country down. Look no further than Detroit for the model as well - city run into the ground, idiots there still vote for the Democrats that put them there.

    This isn't rocket science, folks. The poor and stupid simply outnumbered everyone else now in the states that count. You can thank the Bushes, Clinton, and Obama and their collective immigration policies for it.
    Wow, great post and 100% the truth.
    Keep thinking that the country will wake up, but too many on the government teat. Too many don't vote, too many are Clueless. Too many that don't hold the offending party liable for their misdeeds and missteps.
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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    Again, reference Idiocracy. Look at Venezuela's bus driver president and Idiocracy president Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. Venezuela is just ahead of us as far as electing 110% Idiocracy types.

    We are getting closer, though. Obama had a paper thin background. At least the bus driver in Venezuela really had a job one time driving a bus. That's one more job than Obama ever had.

    We're getting there, folks. Just be prepared.
    It should be getting clearer to those who doubt or even scream in rage, the republican candidate MUST win the election in '16, for us to have even a chance to carry on peacefully.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    I'm with sicem until the blind rage of opinion starts in the 3rd paragraph

    And Rush, you got a candidate hidden away somewhere that isn't a clown?

    I don't see anyone so far that can handle Hilary, and that makes me sad.

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    And Rush, you got a candidate hidden away somewhere that isn't a clown?

    I don't see anyone so far that can handle Hilary, and that makes me sad.
    Both of those statements are absurd, and it's sad for you if you really think what you said there.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    I'm with sicem until the blind rage of opinion starts in the 3rd paragraph

    And Rush, you got a candidate hidden away somewhere that isn't a clown?

    I don't see anyone so far that can handle Hilary, and that makes me sad.
    2/3 right 100% of the time!

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    Both of those statements are absurd, and it's sad for you if you really think what you said there.
    haha!

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    I dont read much Political crap but is Billiary really shrinking in the Poles?
    Could good old Uncle Joe be the Dem Nominee?
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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Obama and his department of (in)justice has done an incredible amount of damage to the rule of law and respect for government entities in this country. He has lowered the bar of ethical behavior for all future administrations. In fact, I think the Democrats and media owe Richard Nixon a heart felt apology for his impeachment. I seriously doubt the damage done by this tin horn, incompetent community organizer will ever be repaired.
    Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    Obama and his department of (in)justice has done an incredible amount of damage to the rule of law and respect for government entities in this country. He has lowered the bar of ethical behavior for all future administrations. In fact, I think the Democrats and media owe Richard Nixon a heart felt apology for his impeachment. I seriously doubt the damage done by this tin horn, incompetent community organizer will ever be repaired.
    Nixon would not be impeached today in this political environment...


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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Really?

    Clinton couldn't lie about getting a BJ and you think the democrats would just let the sitting president get away with getting caught on Watergate? I mean they still call things "gates" and that was over 40 years ago

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    Really?

    Clinton couldn't lie about getting a BJ and you think the democrats would just let the sitting president get away with getting caught on Watergate? I mean they still call things "gates" and that was over 40 years ago
    Are you ****ing ****ting me? The Democrats have allowed the IRS and other executive branch agencies to get away with destroying e-mails and entire hard drives. They have allowed Hillary to get away with deleting not just a few seconds of a recording but tens of thousands of e-mails off of a private server she shouldn't have been using in the first place. They have allowed this President and his NSA to expand exponentially George Bush's domestic spying programs started with the Patriot Act.

    You can be an apologist for this secretive, opaque administration all you want but don't come back and whine when a GOP POTUS unleashes the IRS on his political enemies or convenintly destroys offical government e-mails and hard drives to get rid of evidence or condones the use of private servers to conduct officiao government business. Your partisan blindness is helping to create an environment where ideologic goals completely trump the rule of law. In other words, low information/expectation voters like yourself are turning this country into a bannana republic.
    Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    Really?

    Clinton couldn't lie about getting a BJ and you think the democrats would just let the sitting president get away with getting caught on Watergate? I mean they still call things "gates" and that was over 40 years ago
    The apologists always want to downplay the entire situation. "He lied" is seriously downplaying what happened...Clinton committed perjury to a Grand Jury and (most likely) obstructed justice...as well abused his power as POTUS(more than likely)...and yet...

    So yeah...Nixon would not be impeached in this current environment...a 2/3 majority is not possible in the Senate, the Dems are not crossing the aisles...


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    Six stitches is a pretty decent sized gash.
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    To hell with Nebraska...they are overrated and irrelevant.

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner in Tampa View Post
    Nixon would not be impeached today in this political environment...
    Well, he would probably quit due to the Media, just like he did in the 70's. He was a republican, y'know!
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Obama has learned some mad skills at trolling conservatives. Must be on his "rhymes with bucket" list.
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    Re: I'm a pretty good President, If I ran, I would win a third term

    Quote Originally Posted by TAFBSooner View Post
    Obama has learned some mad skills at trolling conservatives. Must be on his "rhymes with bucket" list.
    And this thread is proof. Got his 2nd term swagger goin'

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