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    Re: Going Greek

    Call me crazy but I think the post office does a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Call me crazy but I think the post office does a good job.
    ---You need to get out more--------- http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/10/us...rter.html?_r=0

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    Fun read on why SS won't go bankrupt:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnthar...t-go-bankrupt/

    Do all of my arguments delve into blaming old people? The first SS recipients have received far more than they ever paid in and this situation will likely continue until the system is declared insolvent. Then, SS recipients will gradually receive less and less until it's at a what's-paid-in-is-what's-given-out status.

    Basically, we're headed back to a situation where older generations will rely on their children and grandchildren for care once again, rather than having enough retirement funds to fend for themselves. Quite frankly, it probably isn't such a bad thing to have families forced to work and live together once again rather than only visit the nursing home on birthdays and major holidays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now
    Elder conservatives still like Social Security and Medicare. They're socialists like that.

    I'm elder enough to be a fan of them as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by olevetonahill View Post
    Not so much a Fan as we Paid into it all our lives and would like to get most of it back.
    Exactly. Srsly, SN, why is it that wasn't the first thing in your mind, and why did you choose to ignore it, or did it not even enter your mind?
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    ---You need to get out more--------- http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/10/us...rter.html?_r=0
    I would give me hell for linking to the nytimes. You might as well put up a link to huffpost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I would give me hell for linking to the nytimes. You might as well put up a link to huffpost.
    ---Why ?----The Post office is not well run----Who cares where the link comes from------Your post makes no sense

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    Re: Going Greek

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Call me crazy but I think the post office does a good job.
    Yeah, that's what I thouth. They seem to be going downhill as of late, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    There are many reasons we are far from being Greece --- we have a larger population, our country is larger also by land square footage, we have more wealth, we have more clout worldwide, we have a much higher credit rating... but that doesn't mean we should ignore the lessons Greece is teaching us, nor does it mean that a Greek default will leave the U.S. economy unblemished.

    Still, its hard to not roll eyes at Greece being compared to what the U.S. is going through with its recession(s). I get that we have debt and we need to shore up our spending. However, a lot of Greek's problems are tied to the fact that they have very little control over the Euro. If they had their own currency still, they could have continued racketing up inflation forever without consequence. Pensions for everyone!
    "Pensions for everyone! " -- You say that like it's a bad thing. Back in the '60s everybody but the DFHs had pensions.
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    More epicycles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by olevetonahill View Post
    Not so much a Fan as we Paid into it all our lives and would like to get most of it back.
    Egg-xactly. I have no doubt I won't get back what I paid (in current dollars with zero interest), but I'll vote to fight to get as much of it as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eielson View Post
    Yeah, that's what I thouth. They seem to be going downhill as of late, though.
    They just need to increase their rates to cover costs. It's pretty incredible that you can put paper into an envelope and send it 3,000 miles in a few days for $0.49. I can drive about 4.5 miles for that amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    They just need to increase their rates to cover costs. It's pretty incredible that you can put paper into an envelope and send it 3,000 miles in a few days for $0.49. I can drive about 4.5 miles for that amount.
    ---Wrong---The cost structure of the Post Office is awful--------I knew they would go broke when I received my first Email------Only the Gov't could have a monopoly and lose money

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    Re: Going Greek

    Puerto Rico is a better example than Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    ---Wrong---The cost structure of the Post Office is awful--------I knew they would go broke when I received my first Email------Only the Gov't could have a monopoly and lose money
    You're a critic with no critique on how they can improve. Are you saying the same thing as I am? I can't tell.

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    Just to clarify, the problem in Greece is that they can't fluctuate their currency to deal with the ups and downs in their economy. For a better explanation from a guy who predicted this almost 20 years ago -> http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/marke...sis/ar-AAchxtN

    Puerto Rico on the other hand is more about rampant borrowing to give it away. Even after 6 years of government cutting they still haven't gotten to a zero sum budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    The cost structure of the Post Office is awful
    Serenity said they need to raise their rates. Is that what you're saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    You're a critic with no critique on how they can improve. Are you saying the same thing as I am? I can't tell.
    ---And you are very naïve----If you want to save the Post office privatize it----

    Is that clear enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eielson View Post
    Serenity said they need to raise their rates. Is that what you're saying?
    ----No their cost to provide the service is way too high------CUT COSTS---- As an example---Do you really need Saturday service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    ---And you are very naïve----If you want to save the Post office privatize it----

    Is that clear enough
    Wouldn't that require a constitutional amendment?

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    I'm not very familiar with how USPS works, so I'm willing to be edumacated.

    If the PO charges rates that are too low, and they end up having to use taxpayer money because of that, is that much of an issue? After all, the taxpayers are the ones benefiting from the low rates.

    It's always been my impression that USPS is one of the better ran organizations by the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkm, the stolen pifwafwi View Post
    Wouldn't that require a constitutional amendment?
    --- Congress has the power to establish Post Offices---I would guess they could sell it

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