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    All of you free spending Liberals need to keep your eye on Greece----That's the way this Country is heading

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    Re: Going Greek

    I'm up for some austerity measures.

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    Re: Going Greek

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    All of you free spending Liberals need to keep your eye on Greece----That's the way this Country is heading
    It'll be worse here because Greece doesn't have the minority populations that we have. If we ever get to the point of having to take away freebies, the lesser achieving minorities here will riot for real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I'm up for some austerity measures.
    ---Fine where do you want to start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    ---Fine where do you want to start?
    We need to go both directions. Some of those corporate tax cuts on the top end. We've got a **** ton too many folks on "disability". We need to roll some of that back. And whatever program we do the Obama phones with. And, I'm good with cutting back some other generic welfare benefits. I think we should maintain the Medicare and elderly SSI.

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    Re: Going Greek

    That would not even put a dent in the problem---------We will have $27 Trillion in debt in 10 years----------Still think the Gov't "HELPS"

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    There are many reasons we are far from being Greece --- we have a larger population, our country is larger also by land square footage, we have more wealth, we have more clout worldwide, we have a much higher credit rating... but that doesn't mean we should ignore the lessons Greece is teaching us, nor does it mean that a Greek default will leave the U.S. economy unblemished.

    Still, its hard to not roll eyes at Greece being compared to what the U.S. is going through with its recession(s). I get that we have debt and we need to shore up our spending. However, a lot of Greek's problems are tied to the fact that they have very little control over the Euro. If they had their own currency still, they could have continued racketing up inflation forever without consequence. Pensions for everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    There are many reasons we are far from being Greece --- we have a larger population, our country is larger also by land square footage, we have more wealth, we have more clout worldwide, we have a much higher credit rating... but that doesn't mean we should ignore the lessons Greece is teaching us, nor does it mean that a Greek default will leave the U.S. economy unblemished.

    Still, its hard to not roll eyes at Greece being compared to what the U.S. is going through with its recession(s). I get that we have debt and we need to shore up our spending. However, a lot of Greek's problems are tied to the fact that they have very little control over the Euro. If they had their own currency still, they could have continued racketing up inflation forever without consequence. Pensions for everyone!
    ---So we will just keeping spending money and making promises to people that we will be unable to pay for-----Ever look at unfunded liabilities its over $75 Trillion-----That does not include the debt-----------Fix it now or it will be unfixable at some point in the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    That would not even put a dent in the problem---------We will have $27 Trillion in debt in 10 years----------Still think the Gov't "HELPS"
    Maybe we cut back on some of that military spending. Since my ideas won't work, what would you have us do?

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    So we will just keeping spending money and making promises to people that we will be unable to pay for-
    Pretty much, yes. It might sound dishonest or lacking integrity, but this is the government we're talking about here, where politicians will say and do what they need to elected and then say and do whatever the hell they want once in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Maybe we cut back on some of that military spending. Since my ideas won't work, what would you have us do?
    ---I don't mind cutting the military---cut Medicare-Medicaid----Fix Social Security-Get rid of at least 50% of all gov't agencies and most if not all the stupid Gov't welfare give-a-way or "Why work?" programs. We also need to be able to get rid of Gov't employees that do not do their job

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    Authorized governmental functions: roads, highways, military, police and fire, social security and medicare.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: Going Greek

    Liberal Socialism never works long term

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    Authorized governmental functions: roads, highways, military, police and fire, social security and medicare.
    social security and medicare? You communist, you! (I am smiling when I say that.)

    The Post Office is authorized under the Constitution, even though conservatives hate it. (I wear a big badge identifying me as a liberal, so post office workers know to give me good service. It has consistently worked for 59 years, even though my badge said "conservative" until 1989.)

    Post roads are authorized, due to the foreseen need to knit the new country together. I would imagine that railroads would have been included, if that technology had been around in 1787.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAFBSooner View Post
    social security and medicare? You communist, you! (I am smiling when I say that.)

    The Post Office is authorized under the Constitution, even though conservatives hate it. (I wear a big badge identifying me as a liberal, so post office workers know to give me good service. It has consistently worked for 59 years, even though my badge said "conservative" until 1989.)

    Post roads are authorized, due to the foreseen need to knit the new country together. I would imagine that railroads would have been included, if that technology had been around in 1787.
    Elder conservatives still like Social Security and Medicare. They're socialists like that.

    I'm elder enough to be a fan of them as well.

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    Re: Going Greek

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Elder conservatives still like Social Security and Medicare. They're socialists like that.

    I'm elder enough to be a fan of them as well.
    Not so much a Fan as we Paid into it all our lives and would like to get most of it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olevetonahill View Post
    would like to get most of it back.
    Right the hell On!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Elder conservatives still like Social Security and Medicare. They're socialists like that.

    I'm elder enough to be a fan of them as well.
    ---Think how much money you would have if your SS money and that paid by your employer had been put in any type of investment ----------The benefits you would receive back would be much more than you will receive from SS-----What a great deal I paid money in as far back as the 70's and they are going to give it back to me---less tax in 2020 What a great deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    ---Think how much money you would have if your SS money and that paid by your employer had been put in any type of investment ----------The benefits you would receive back would be much more than you will receive from SS-----What a great deal I paid money in as far back as the 70's and they are going to give it back to me---less tax in 2020 What a great deal
    We'd all be insanely rich is the easy answer. But since the easy answer is never the right answer that's probably not true. The government would screw that up in a hurry. If anything, that would have led to them wasting/stealing even more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ton Loc View Post
    We'd all be insanely rich is the easy answer. But since the easy answer is never the right answer that's probably not true. The government would screw that up in a hurry. If anything, that would have led to them wasting/stealing even more money.
    ---Nah---The Gov't runs everything well--just look at the Post office or Medicare or Healthcare web sites or or or nevermind

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