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    SCOTUS-CARE 6-3

    Questions, comments, notes of discord?

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    Looks like we are stuck with a bad law----Anyone that thinks this is going to lower healthcare costs is a fool

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    We broken. REALLY broken.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Roberts is a b*tch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eielson View Post
    Roberts is a b*tch.
    Roberts needs to apply the Constitution not worry about the legacy of his Court

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    The big winners are Big Insurance. I'm not sure Roberts did Obama and the Democrats any favors with this ruling. Now they own the healthcare issue and all of the developments that happen over the next 2 years....good or bad. I happen to think there will be a lot of bad news coming out regarding healthcare costs, insurance premium costs, doctor shortages, and deductible increases/surprises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    The big winners are Big Insurance. I'm not sure Roberts did Obama and the Democrats any favors with this ruling. Now they own the healthcare issue and all of the developments that happen over the next 2 years....good or bad. I happen to think there will be a lot of bad news coming out regarding healthcare costs, insurance premium costs, doctor shortages, and deductible increases/surprises.
    ---Correct-----I heard that the deductible for Bixby City employees is going from $500 per year to $7,000----That is going to really hurt those people

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    Well at least we now know what's in it----Thanks Nancy

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    #THANKSOBAMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    #THANKSOBAMA
    ---How can you think this law is good for the Country?

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    As Mitt Romney noted in the 2012 debates, having a different president (and different Congress) is about the only way to overturn this law. Unless you expect activist judges to act according to your preference, don't expect SCOTUS to do Congress' dirty work.

    I know this means another year of Obamacare, as the next election's not until 2016 -- the House/Senate does not have a veto-proof majority and Obama is guaranteed to veto anything that threatens his namesake legislation. This is the price the U.S. pays for what the majority voted for. I don't like high deductions from my paycheck any more than the rest of you. If there's any silver lining, it's that voters have a constant reminder of what these elected officials did once in office... and if you want voters to act, hit them where it hurts.

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    In my experience, business and governmental entities are using this as an excuse to cut their overhead. These are not market forces that were unforeseeable regardless of Romneycare/SCOTUS-Care. Hillcrest a year or two ago cut a number of staff and blamed the fact that Oklahoma did not do the Medicaid expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    In my experience, business and governmental entities are using this as an excuse to cut their overhead. These are not market forces that were unforeseeable regardless of Romneycare/SCOTUS-Care. Hillcrest a year or two ago cut a number of staff and blamed the fact that Oklahoma did not do the Medicaid expansion.
    ---You need to broaden your experience----This is just another ill- conceived Gov't program that they have no idea what it will cost or do to the Country

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    The big winners are Big Insurance. I'm not sure Roberts did Obama and the Democrats any favors with this ruling. Now they own the healthcare issue and all of the developments that happen over the next 2 years....good or bad. I happen to think there will be a lot of bad news coming out regarding healthcare costs, insurance premium costs, doctor shortages, and deductible increases/surprises.
    That's what most the political analysts are saying. Had ACA been tossed, the onus would be on the pubs to come up with a better plan since they control congress. And the old plan is not going to fly with the voters. With ACA being upheld, the pubs can continue to harp on how bad it is without having to pen something better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    The big winners are Big Insurance. I'm not sure Roberts did Obama and the Democrats any favors with this ruling. Now they own the healthcare issue and all of the developments that happen over the next 2 years....good or bad. I happen to think there will be a lot of bad news coming out regarding healthcare costs, insurance premium costs, doctor shortages, and deductible increases/surprises.
    Correct; add to that, their lobbyists. And, as usual, the middle class is stuck with the bill. Here, in the form of higher deductibles and narrower doctor networks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    ---You need to broaden your experience----This is just another ill- conceived Gov't program that they have no idea what it will cost or do to the Country
    Thanks for the heads up. Those 20 years in health care and the MBA haven't done me any good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    ---You need to broaden your experience----This is just another ill- conceived Gov't program that they have no idea what it will cost or do to the Country
    Forget it. He doesn't own a business, so he'll never understand. Always the same with socialists: it's easier to spend other people's money than to earn your own.

    Look at Greece and Venezuela; that will be America during my kids' lifetime, if not sooner. Problem, as Venezuela and Greece have discovered is, where to get the money when the "other people" finally run out of it or move away? Answer, so far: beg international banks and funds.

    Actually, Greece and Venezuela don't actually care that they've run out of money. Their leaders are defiant about debt and their broken economies. It's someone else's fault, you know. Always is with socialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Thanks for the heads up.
    Those 20 years in health care and the MBA haven't done me any good.
    ---Your the one that would know---- My 40 years of working for and owning companies ---all of which provided healthcare---As well as my MBA and JD----Have opened my eyes to the problems of any Big Gov't program----So hide and watch all the problems this thing will create

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Thanks for the heads up. Those 20 years in health care and the MBA haven't done me any good.
    No truer words were ever spoken.
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    Since you are obviously smarter than me, what do you job creators propose that we do to assure that tens of thousands of working Americans don't go bankrupt from not having access to affordable health care?

    It drives me crazy when I see a $25,000 air ambulance bill go against some $15/hour guy yet the same ambulance service will allow Blue Cross to pay $8,0000 and Medicare pay $6,500. It's the same way with hospital bills, the numbers are just larger.

    I'm different from you guys because I don't propose that I have all the answers.

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