minimum wage push

[Soonerjeepman]

so, the west coast...(LA .. california who is BROKE), seattle...someone else...

now kc (missouri another pos city with very high poverty) and st louis...are trying...

what the hell...WHO do they think it's actually going to help?

The FEW times I go to a fast food joint will go to ZERO!...

jeeze

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

it's madness. many restaurants will go out of business.

[champions77]

Heck, raise it to $30.00 an hour. If $10.00 is good, $15.00 is better, then Heck give them $30.00 an hour.
Seriously, what 90% of those making minimum wage are in high school living with mom and maybe Dad?
Anyone want to bet that a vast majority of these politicians promoting these increases have NEVER owned a business in their life?
Lastly for those making a minimum wage in their mid-twenties or older...what kind of a loser are these people? If you arrive at a job at minimum wage, and you have even an average work ethic, most employers will give you a raise pretty soon, because for most employers, and I am one, finding and retaining good employees are your biggest challenge. There are so many lazy, irresponsible People out there, that you want to hang onto a solid worker, and you do that by paying them more. More government meddling in business. They just can't help themselves.

[dwarthog]

They'll just come up with solutions to mitigate the costs. Solutions that require fewer actual people to be paid.

[olevetonahill]

Heck, raise it to $30.00 an hour. If $10.00 is good, $15.00 is better, then Heck give them $30.00 an hour.
Seriously, what 90% of those making minimum wage are in high school living with mom and maybe Dad?
Anyone want to bet that a vast majority of these politicians promoting these increases have NEVER owned a business in their life?
Lastly for those making a minimum wage in their mid-twenties or older...what kind of a loser are these people? If you arrive at a job at minimum wage, and you have even an average work ethic, most employers will give you a raise pretty soon, because for most employers, and I am one, finding and retaining good employees are your biggest challenge. There are so many lazy, irresponsible People out there, that you want to hang onto a solid worker, and you do that by paying them more. More government meddling in business. They just can't help themselves.

Agreed Bro
If a Business owner has to pay an untrained entry level type person 15 bucks and Hour how much more will they have to pay some one with a moderate level of skills?

Personally I'd rather hire someone for More that has the skills to do the job with out wasting time trying to train some dip**** kid that cant even tie his shoes, Who when He decide he dont really want to work will just up and quit on you with NO NOTICE.

Keep the Minimum low and then Pay according to ability's. If they dont work out fire their asses . If they Do PAY their asses what it takes to keep them

[Turd_Ferguson]

[badger]

it's madness. many restaurants will go out of business.

Seattle's going through this now. Basically, there's only so much people will pay for restaurant food, so profit margins are small as-is. Wait staff at higher-end restaurants are sometimes no longer tipped, so their wages actually went down. In other industries, previous perks are getting cut out. For example, hotels are closing restaurants due to the new minimum, so there's no longer free food/drinks/etc for hotel workers.

I *think* government is exempt from the rule, so I've heard University of Washington is losing out on students who are looking off-campus for higher paying jobs now. You might remember those guys from the Jake Locker neck spinning OU game en route to UW going 0-12.

I've also heard that some places are adding surcharges to pay for the new wage, i.e. airport parking.

The argument, aside from helping people make ends meet and such, seems to be that people are convinced that companies are hoarding money. I have no doubt that there are some budding FIFAs are cheating us all out of house and home... but they aren't the ones paying minimum wage in this country. You might as well be the NCAA going after mid-majors when you're pizzed at the big boys cheating.

[SoonerorLater]

seems to be that people are convinced that companies are hoarding money.

You mean saving?

[Tear Down This Wall]

Two of our clients are chain restaurants, and we have several franchised restaurant owners as well. The belief that restaurant owners are swimming in cash is the greatest lie being told today.

McDonalds, for example, might be raking it in; but, their franchisees - who pay the workers - are in thon margins.

Any type of restaurant you can think of is affected by food prices. Egg prices up recently...think of all the food with eggs as an ingredient. All of the sudden. All of that drought in California. These things cause spikes in ingredient expenses for restauranteurs.

For these type of entrepreneurs, it's tough enough to keep a handle on costs that are driven out of control by natural problems. You throw in governments then telling them how much they have to raise their hourly pay by? It's difficult enough to find good help. Now, they've got the "help" telling them they aren't paid enough.

Stupid. The problem with all of this is people trying to making a career out of jobs that - back in the day - were temporary jobs. Working at McDonalds as a career? Wal-Mart? I mean, outside of management positions there, which I would guess requires some sort of education, why would anyone be trying to make a career out of, "Do you want fries with that?" and "Welcome to Wal-Mart"?

Nuts.

[Serenity Now]

Two of our clients are chain restaurants, and we have several franchised restaurant owners as well. The belief that restaurant owners are swimming in cash is the greatest lie being told today.

McDonalds, for example, might be raking it in; but, their franchisees - who pay the workers - are in thon margins.

Any type of restaurant you can think of is affected by food prices. Egg prices up recently...think of all the food with eggs as an ingredient. All of the sudden. All of that drought in California. These things cause spikes in ingredient expenses for restauranteurs.

For these type of entrepreneurs, it's tough enough to keep a handle on costs that are driven out of control by natural problems. You throw in governments then telling them how much they have to raise their hourly pay by? It's difficult enough to find good help. Now, they've got the "help" telling them they aren't paid enough.

Stupid. The problem with all of this is people trying to making a career out of jobs that - back in the day - were temporary jobs. Working at McDonalds as a career? Wal-Mart? I mean, outside of management positions there, which I would guess requires some sort of education, why would anyone be trying to make a career out of, "Do you want fries with that?" and "Welcome to Wal-Mart"?

Nuts.

I mostly agree with you. Those people making fast food a career used to work in the industries that we have since shipped to China and Mexico. The big dogs are the targets of this kind of movement. They will not be touched. They WILL get their margin one way or the other.

[Turd_Ferguson]

I mostly agree with you. Those people making fast food a career used to work in the industries that we have since shipped to China and Mexico. The big dogs are the targets of this kind of movement. They will not be touched. They WILL get their margin one way or the other.

Really? What industries might that be? And just for ****s and giggles, what is their margin now, and what should it be in your eyes?

[Serenity Now]

The industries that left are myriad. Steel, clothing, etc.

The CEO's are who I was talking about. The owner of a restaurant chain in Smoesville, PA is not the target of this movement. He will be the one impacted. The CEO of Dewey, Cheatham and Howe is going to do whatever needs to be done to keep profit margins stable and to be sure that the golden parachute is properly fitted.

[Serenity Now]

Really? What industries might that be? And just for ****s and giggles, what is their margin now, and what should it be in your eyes?

And FWIW, fuknut, I ain't for the $15 min wage.

[Turd_Ferguson]

The industries that left are myriad. Steel, clothing, etc.

The CEO's are who I was talking about. The owner of a restaurant chain in Smoesville, PA is not the target of this movement. He will be the one impacted. The CEO of Dewey, Cheatham and Howe is going to do whatever needs to be done to keep profit margins stable and to be sure that the golden parachute is properly fitted.

So, what you're telling me, is that steelworkers and commercial seamstresses are working at McDonalds?

And, as I figured, you don't have a margin, you just think whatever it is, it's too high. Go tit.

[Turd_Ferguson]

And FWIW, fuknut, I ain't for the $15 min wage.

And FWIW, *****, I couldn't give two ****s what you're for.

[Serenity Now]

So, what you're telling me, is that steelworkers and commercial seamstresses are working at McDonalds?

And, as I figured, you don't have a margin, you just think whatever it is, it's too high. Go tit.

If you don't give a **** what i think then don't ask me things.

In my opinion, 27-48 year old people who used to work for any number of places like whirlpool, U.S. steel, wrangler, etc. wrangler closed 5 plants in OK that I know of. They weren't "seamstresses" but they made 12/hour in the early 1990s.

[Serenity Now]

Turd. Kind of fitting.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Turd. Kind of fitting.

Whatever, punchy.

[olevetonahill]

Whatever, punchy.

Hes the Peter Pepper eater LOL

[Serenity Now]

What business did you say closed in your neck of the woods vet?