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    McCarthy?

    From another thread you referenced that Coulter was correct about McCarthy. I respect your views. Can you elaborate?

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    I don't know much about the era specifically, but a new story I read recently spoke of underground communist or progressive cells maneuvering people and plans to push their agenda. Many of the left intelligencia may be part of this, many were centered in the arts and media... Joe did seem out there, he may have been, but then all the secret stuff that has come out and the government suppression of thought through the IRS, FEC and FCC (?) makes one wonder if ole Joe wasn't on to something...
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    See the Venona Project.

    Essentially she contends Mccarthy's communist witch hunt was proven to be valid with the release of the information from that project.

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    Re: McCarthy?

    Oh, I thought this thread about Jenny McCarthy. Never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwarthog View Post
    See the Venona Project.

    Essentially she contends Mccarthy's communist witch hunt was proven to be valid with the release of the information from that project.
    My hunch is that he was both right and wrong. His antics were out there. The deamonization of the entertainment industry is much different that hunting spies in the State Department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerorLater View Post
    Oh, I thought this thread about Jenny McCarthy. Never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerorLater View Post
    Oh, I thought this thread about Jenny McCarthy. Never mind.
    There are a myriad of reasons to hate MTV. One of them is giving Jenny McCarthy a pathway to the public eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tear Down This Wall View Post
    There are a myriad of reasons to hate MTV. One of them is giving Jenny McCarthy a pathway to the public eye.
    That could do more harm than obamacare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    That could do more harm than obamacare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    From another thread you referenced that Coulter was correct about McCarthy. I respect your views. Can you elaborate?
    I meant to name sic'em in the original thread. I hope there's a joe McCarthy garden party story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I meant to name sic'em in the original thread. I hope there's a joe McCarthy garden party story.
    There's more disinformation surrounding McCarthy than truth. A great example is my HS Civics textbook which criticized McCarthy's HUAC committee (redundant, I know) for dragging innocent actors and actresses to DC and ruining their careers. I pointed out that McCarthy was a United States Senator and did not/could not chair a *House* committee. There's no defending dragging private citizens before House committees and running them through the wringer whether they were Communist or not.

    However, McCarthy was almost exclusively interested in members of the State/Defense Departments that had top-secret security clearance. These were leftover Roosevelt and Truman officials who were a little too soft on the Communists and old 'Uncle Joe' at best or outright Communist agents at worst. Now, that created something of a hysteria that spread to the civilian world and created the conditions in which HUAC operated; however, that wasn't necessarily the fault of McCarthy -- it was an unfortunate side-effect. McCarthy's work in uncovering Communist agents in the American government was important and the right thing to do at the time.

    There's little I hate more on this Earth than Communism, and there were too many of them in sensitive areas of government at that time.

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    Having said all of that, McCarthy was a mess in his private life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    There's more disinformation surrounding McCarthy than truth. A great example is my HS Civics textbook which criticized McCarthy's HUAC committee (redundant, I know) for dragging innocent actors and actresses to DC and ruining their careers. I pointed out that McCarthy was a United States Senator and did not/could not chair a *House* committee. There's no defending dragging private citizens before House committees and running them through the wringer whether they were Communist or not.

    However, McCarthy was almost exclusively interested in members of the State/Defense Departments that had top-secret security clearance. These were leftover Roosevelt and Truman officials who were a little too soft on the Communists and old 'Uncle Joe' at best or outright Communist agents at worst. Now, that created something of a hysteria that spread to the civilian world and created the conditions in which HUAC operated; however, that wasn't necessarily the fault of McCarthy -- it was an unfortunate side-effect. McCarthy's work in uncovering Communist agents in the American government was important and the right thing to do at the time.

    There's little I hate more on this Earth than Communism, and there were too many of them in sensitive areas of government at that time.
    Hell, anyone left from Roosevelt most likely truly were communist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    My hunch is that he was both right and wrong. His antics were out there. The deamonization of the entertainment industry is much different that hunting spies in the State Department.
    Because of course we all know the entertainment industry has no impact on cutural views.
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    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    The Tea Party would welcome McCarthy with open arms if he were around today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner79 View Post
    The Tea Party would welcome McCarthy with open arms if he were around today.
    haha, As If there's nothing wrong with communism.
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner79 View Post
    The Tea Party would welcome McCarthy with open arms if he were around today.
    Why, was he against increasing federal taxes and opposed to expanding the powers of the federal government? I didn't know that about Ol' Tailgunner Joe.
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    Re: McCarthy?

    I think Ol' Joe was for whatever would get him re-elected. Think "theatrics".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    I think Ol' Joe was for whatever would get him re-elected. Think "theatrics".
    Bingo! We have a winnah! Just have to add the leveraging of public paranoia to theatrics. Joe could update the common foe from communist to whatever would play well with fear today.

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