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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by champions77 View Post
    So now the name calling. A favorite of the left. Must have touched a nerve. What part of; "In summation - we're all screwed and stuck with the decisions of the overall ignorant majority of this state" do you want to retract?
    None of it. People who are ignorant on what they're are voting on will make ignorant decisions on those things. Ignorant aka lacking knowledge.

    I'm not calling you a liar or stupid in everyday life. Just on this topic you can decide. I've seen your other posts. They weren't stupid.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    Have you seen who WE elect in our state government? Do you see some of the fools that we KEEP sending to Washington to represent us?

    I've never been a big Hillary fan but she's 100 times more substantial than Inhofe. The vitriol that people have against her is so strong and irrational.
    She is more substantial than Inhofe; I'll agree with that. However, that's like saying a 10lbs bucket of fried chicken is more substantial than a garden salad. Yes, it's more substantial but does that make it better?

    Most of the anti-Hillary folks are absolutely right but for the wrong reason, and some of it is irrational. A great example, that I mentioned in another thread, is the 'What does it matter?' quote which was taken entirely out of context. If you watch the committee hearing, she was saying that whether the attack was precipitated based on a YouTube video or pre-planned ultimately doesn't matter because x-number of Americans died. IOW, what does the motive of the attackers ultimately matter when so many Americans died? She has been taken well out of context for that quote.

    On the other hand, the woman has more skeletons in her closet than a Gambino family foot soldier. A very long list of corruptions both minor and major stretching back to when she was first lady of Arkansas. Her treatment of White House employees is also well documented and, frankly, should give anyone pause before electing such an individual. But putting all of that past aside, there's still the issue of the e-mail servers which was a purposeful violation and circumvention of a very important law. Her explanation has been both lacking and disingenuous. The woman simply has far too much baggage to be trusted as the next President.

    And even all of that is putting aside her hawkish views on foreign policy.

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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    "So now the name calling. A favorite of the left."

    Have you been paying attention to the climate here?

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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    She is more substantial than Inhofe; I'll agree with that. However, that's like saying a 10lbs bucket of fried chicken is more substantial than a garden salad. Yes, it's more substantial but does that make it better?

    Most of the anti-Hillary folks are absolutely right but for the wrong reason, and some of it is irrational. A great example, that I mentioned in another thread, is the 'What does it matter?' quote which was taken entirely out of context. If you watch the committee hearing, she was saying that whether the attack was precipitated based on a YouTube video or pre-planned ultimately doesn't matter because x-number of Americans died. IOW, what does the motive of the attackers ultimately matter when so many Americans died? She has been taken well out of context for that quote.

    On the other hand, the woman has more skeletons in her closet than a Gambino family foot soldier. A very long list of corruptions both minor and major stretching back to when she was first lady of Arkansas. Her treatment of White House employees is also well documented and, frankly, should give anyone pause before electing such an individual. But putting all of that past aside, there's still the issue of the e-mail servers which was a purposeful violation and circumvention of a very important law. Her explanation has been both lacking and disingenuous. The woman simply has far too much baggage to be trusted as the next President.

    And even all of that is putting aside her hawkish views on foreign policy.
    They're turning you into a Hillary apologist.

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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    That's inaccurate. I live in a subdivision of about 25 homes. I can almost guarantee you that I'm the only Democrat. They're relatively wealthy. They're certainly smart. They cling more to their tax breaks. They also cling to their guns and their religion.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Oklahoma's delegation is absolutely horrible.

    Lucas is an empty suit.
    Cole is a catamite for the House leadership.
    Russell is absolutely dangerous as **** -- his views are a true danger to conservatism.
    Mullin is one of the dumbest politicians I've ever encountered. I don't mean that because of his views -- he truly is not a smart man.
    Bridenstine is exceptional and the one bright spot.
    Inhofe is so-so. His voting record is marginal, but he's strong on climate change issues. The problem is that he could present his arguments in such a way that he does't come across as a bat**** crazy loon.
    Lankford is a truly scary combo of the worst traits of both Cole and Russell. He almost never votes against the leadership, his evangelical views are a dangerous threat to liberty, he is a proponent of the national-security state, and his views on foreign policy are as disturbing as Russell's.

    ...and the state legislature has more than a fair share of crazies. However, I have to admit that this session has surprised me a few times in a number of good ways. There are signs of real improvement there. From the bill that removes government from marriage to legislation making it easier for breweries to operate to the experimental medical treatment bill.....things are improving ever so slightly.

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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by Ton Loc View Post
    The new cellphone/texting ban. Another waste of time in my opinion when distracted driving laws already existed that cover such things. However, I guess in the large scheme of things - maybe the amount of attention it has been given will change some people's behaviors. I highly doubt it because I'm a skeptic and a hypocrite who still uses his cellphone while driving.
    I don't mind this law in the least although you are right that it probably overlaps with the existing distracted driving law. I believe the new law sets the fine at $100...not enough in my opinion but a step in the right direction. Of course if they don't enforce it like our immigration laws then it really won't matter what the fine is.

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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

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    Name calling is a bipartisan sport on this forum. I never knew "-tard" was a suffix until I started reading here.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    I don't mind this law in the least although you are right that it probably overlaps with the existing distracted driving law. I believe the new law sets the fine at $100...not enough in my opinion but a step in the right direction. Of course if they don't enforce it like our immigration laws then it really won't matter what the fine is.
    Yes it does over lap, But quite simply a Lot of people are ignorant as Ton said. This Law specifically states Texting whereas the distracted law they could choose to think they were not doing anything wrong.. I dont drive a lot anymore but just in the last 2 years ive seen folks do some crazy **** while one handing their phone.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    That's inaccurate. I live in a subdivision of about 25 homes. I can almost guarantee you that I'm the only Democrat. They're relatively wealthy. They're certainly smart. They cling more to their tax breaks. They also cling to their guns and their religion.
    They "cling"? Why do they need to cling to these things? People only cling to things when somebody is trying to take them away. Why do you use the same term Obama used? I guess clinging to those things is better than clinging to the worn out ideology that the government can solve all problems.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    She is more substantial than Inhofe; I'll agree with that. However, that's like saying a 10lbs bucket of fried chicken is more substantial than a garden salad. Yes, it's more substantial but does that make it better?

    Most of the anti-Hillary folks are absolutely right but for the wrong reason, and some of it is irrational. A great example, that I mentioned in another thread, is the 'What does it matter?' quote which was taken entirely out of context. If you watch the committee hearing, she was saying that whether the attack was precipitated based on a YouTube video or pre-planned ultimately doesn't matter because x-number of Americans died. IOW, what does the motive of the attackers ultimately matter when so many Americans died? She has been taken well out of context for that quote.

    On the other hand, the woman has more skeletons in her closet than a Gambino family foot soldier. A very long list of corruptions both minor and major stretching back to when she was first lady of Arkansas. Her treatment of White House employees is also well documented and, frankly, should give anyone pause before electing such an individual. But putting all of that past aside, there's still the issue of the e-mail servers which was a purposeful violation and circumvention of a very important law. Her explanation has been both lacking and disingenuous. The woman simply has far too much baggage to be trusted as the next President.

    And even all of that is putting aside her hawkish views on foreign policy.
    Regarding Senator Inhoffe, I have never seen you post something that is so wrong and off-track. Senator Inhoffe is 100 times the statesman Hillary is. In terms of being quality human beings and attitudes toward the proper role of government they are as different as night and day. Hillary is a creature of the DC establishment. Hillary, her bastard child and idiot husband are like ticks that we cannot get removed from the tax payers' hides. Meanwhile Inhoffe's family, for the most part, pursued careers outside of politics. His son Perry(killed in a plane crash a couple of years ago) was an outstanding orthopedic surgeon who I knew while I was in residency. I, as you are fond of saying, have met Senator Inhoffe multiple times and he has always been cordial, friendly and always took the time to answer questions form lots of community groups in the state unlike hillary who is secretive, manipulative and deceptive.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    I don't mind this law in the least although you are right that it probably overlaps with the existing distracted driving law. I believe the new law sets the fine at $100...not enough in my opinion but a step in the right direction. Of course if they don't enforce it like our immigration laws then it really won't matter what the fine is.
    That fine is so weak when you compare it to $186 for a simple speeding ticket. Also, a distracted driving ticket is more than double the texting while driving fine. Somewhere around $225. I don't mind the law, just the fact that it seems to be a waste when it is just covering what is already out there.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Lot of laughs on this thread.

    Carry on.


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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    I have never seen you post something that is so wrong and off-track. Senator Inhoffe is 100 times the statesman Hillary is. In terms of being quality human beings and attitudes toward the proper role of government they are as different as night and day in their differences. Hillary is a creature of the DC establishment. Her and her bastard child and idiot husband are like ticks that we cannot get removed from the tax payers hides. Meanwhile Inhoffe's family, for the most part, pursued careers outside of politics. His son Perry(killed in a plane crash a couple of years ago) was an outstanding orthopedic surgeon who I knew while I was in residency. I, as you are fond of saying, have met Senator Inhoffe multiple times and he has always been cordial, friendly and always took the time to answer questions form lots of community groups in the state.
    Nothing I said is, in any way, different from what you just stated. I never suggested for a moment that Inhofe wasn't the better statesman, and I even pointed that out with the KFC/salad analogy. When I said that Hillary had more "substance", I was referring to her depth of policy knowledge. Knowing the two, I don't think it's a stretch to point out that Hillary is the bigger policy wonk. She just is. That doesn't mean her judgement or solutions to those policy questions is better than Inhofe's. As I said, it isn't.

    Sic'em, your political and intellectual elitism is starting to wear thin. At this point it is hard to discern your stances from the progressives. The only difference I can see is they hate all things Republican and you seem to just hate all things in the realm of politics.
    You've been straining to find a reason to argue with me for some time now even when there has been little or no disagreement between the two of us. I honestly don't understand it other than to think that perhaps my *tone* (rather than the substance of what I say) is off-putting for you.

    And if you can't tell the difference between my positions and the positions of a progressive then my God...I barely know how to respond to that level of obliviousness. I refuse to believe you're that dense.

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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity Now View Post
    "So now the name calling. A favorite of the left."

    Have you been paying attention to the climate here?
    I agree, much too much of it. But your friend 8th was the absolutely worst that I have seen on any message board. You probably would even agree with that statement.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    Regarding Senator Inhoffe, I have never seen you post something that is so wrong and off-track. Senator Inhoffe is 100 times the statesman Hillary is. In terms of being quality human beings and attitudes toward the proper role of government they are as different as night and day. Hillary is a creature of the DC establishment. Hillary, her bastard child and idiot husband are like ticks that we cannot get removed from the tax payers' hides. Meanwhile Inhoffe's family, for the most part, pursued careers outside of politics. His son Perry(killed in a plane crash a couple of years ago) was an outstanding orthopedic surgeon who I knew while I was in residency. I, as you are fond of saying, have met Senator Inhoffe multiple times and he has always been cordial, friendly and always took the time to answer questions form lots of community groups in the state unlike hillary who is secretive, manipulative and deceptive.
    Inhofe is one of the best peole in national politics. Amazing and sad how many people here don't realize this.
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    Inhofe is one of the best peole in national politics. Amazing and sad how many people here don't realize this.
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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor View Post
    Nothing I said is, in any way, different from what you just stated. I never suggested for a moment that Inhofe wasn't the better statesman, and I even pointed that out with the KFC/salad analogy. When I said that Hillary had more "substance", I was referring to her depth of policy knowledge. Knowing the two, I don't think it's a stretch to point out that Hillary is the bigger policy wonk. She just is. That doesn't mean her judgement or solutions to those policy questions is better than Inhofe's. As I said, it isn't.



    You've been straining to find a reason to argue with me for some time now even when there has been little or no disagreement between the two of us. I honestly don't understand it other than to think that perhaps my *tone* (rather than the substance of what I say) is off-putting for you.

    And if you can't tell the difference between my positions and the positions of a progressive then my God...I barely know how to respond to that level of obliviousness. I refuse to believe you're that dense.
    I am very similar to you in your dislike of the lack of backbone exhibited by the GOP. However, I do see a lot of progress being made in terms a willingness by the new blood in the party to stand up to the sycophants of the left. Compare that to the creature of the DC estbalishment the Democrats are trotting out. I understand why you criticize the GOP. I am willing to see how things play out with the new guys over this election cycle. I did edit my comments because I do respect your point of view but these are the only horses we have to pull the plow at this point. Hopefully that will change and certainly some crticism is warranted but, IMO, not the amount you heap upon the GOP. I will agree with you though that Cole is worthless.
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    OK, here's another.

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    Re: Since we live in Oklahoma

    Quote Originally Posted by hawaii 5-0 View Post
    Lot of laughs on this thread.

    Carry on.


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    The only thing even remotely resembling humor on this thread is Serenity's belief that Hillary is anything other than a walking, talking chariacture of a sleazy, self-serving, self-enriching politician who will say anything or do anything to get elected.

    But you have dropped your turd on the thread so I guess there's nothing left to say to you except have a nice day.
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