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[BoulderSooner79]

I would have picked a cyanide capsule over McCain.

Depends on which McCain you're talking about. There is more than one guy in that body and a couple of them are bat sh.it crazy.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Quote Originally Posted by SicEmBaylor
I would have picked a cyanide capsule over McCain.

Depends on which McCain you're talking about. There is more than one guy in that body and a couple of them are bat sh.it crazy.

Even McCain does some things that are good. Bear...not so much.

[FaninAma]

I will never trust establishment GOPers like Jeb, McCain and Graham to avoid getting us involved in foreign military interventionist wars. This branch of the GOP party is every bit as destructive to this country as is the ultra-liberal wing of the Democratic party.

Interventionism in costly wars is one of the things that led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Excessive giveaways to Roamn citizens was another. It seems like we are hell bent on history repeating itself.

[champions77]

I will never trust establishment GOPers like Jeb, McCain and Graham to avoid getting us involved in foreign military interventionist wars. This branch of the GOP party is every bit as destructive to this country as is the ultra-liberal wing of the Democratic party.

Interventionism in costly wars is one of the things that led to the fall of the Roman Empire. Excessive giveaways to Roamn citizens was another. It seems like we are hell bent on history repeating itself.

I cannot agree with you that interventionist wars is as destructive as the ultra liberal plans for this nation. They do increase our debt, but you'll have both with Hillary. A neo-con and a big government liberal who will do everything possible to further their goals of turning us into a democratic-Socialist form of government.
I agree that we have to be much more selective about where we decide to intervene, no question about that. I just think you can go too far in that direction, let a despot build, and then you have three times the mess to deal with versus going in and taking care of the situation in it's infancy. A good example of this is how fast and powerful the JV squad became while dumb dumb looked the other way.

The left is all for building a much bigger government.....except for the US Military. Continued downsizing will attract the attention of our adversaries. Reagan didn't win the Cold War because the US had the perception of being weak, right? In BHO's first few weeks in office, he cancelled the plans to install a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe. Does anyone really think that that did not influence Putin in his plans for invading Ukraine? BHO operates under the false notion that if you make yourself less intimidating, appear less aggressive, and go around apologizing to the World, that your enemies will be less likely to continue their aggressive ways. That diplomacy will be the ticket for peace and prosperity. History has taught us that that is a naïve approach to ones that would do us harm.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I cannot agree with you that interventionist wars is as destructive as the ultra liberal plans for this nation. They do increase our debt, but you'll have both with Hillary. A neo-con and a big government liberal who will do everything possible to further their goals of turning us into a democratic-Socialist form of government.
I agree that we have to be much more selective about where we decide to intervene, no question about that. I just think you can go too far in that direction, let a despot build, and then you have three times the mess to deal with versus going in and taking care of the situation in it's infancy. A good example of this is how fast and powerful the JV squad became while dumb dumb looked the other way.

The left is all for building a much bigger government.....except for the US Military. Continued downsizing will attract the attention of our adversaries. Reagan didn't win the Cold War because the US had the perception of being weak, right? In BHO's first few weeks in office, he cancelled the plans to install a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe. Does anyone really think that that did not influence Putin in his plans for invading Ukraine? BHO operates under the false notion that if you make yourself less intimidating, appear less aggressive, and go around apologizing to the World, that your enemies will be less likely to continue their aggressive ways. That diplomacy will be the ticket for peace and prosperity. History has taught us that that is a naïve approach to ones that would do us harm.

HEAR HEAR! That is a most superb post, and points out the major flaw in Libertarian thinking - that having international military presence is usually bad. At least the Libertarians are correct about economics, which admirable, but their thinking on international involvement is damaging, like the entire package of the Left(Democrats and other socialists).

[Serenity Now]

HEAR HEAR! That is a most superb post, and points out the major flaw in Libertarian thinking - that having international military presence is usually bad. At least the Libertarians are correct about economics, which admirable, but their thinking on international involvement is damaging, like the entire package of the Left(Democrats and other socialists).

But, to be GOP in foreign affairs and Libertarian in fiance policy is not possible. It's akin to relying on abstinence only birth control to the cast of Jersey Shore.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

But, to be GOP in foreign affairs and Libertarian in fiance policy is not possible. It's akin to relying on abstinence only birth control to the cast of Jersey Shore.

I don't know about any party's fiance policy, but the democrats are GUARANTEED to be wrong on both domestic and foreign governmental policies. At least with the republicans, they will be, even if Lindsay Graham, McCain or Huckabee, considerably better than any democrat running for anything I know about.

People shouldn't even be arguing about it.