Since we live in Oklahoma

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

They're ignorant and have no idea of what or who they are voting for, but you do...right?

That's right, the dems only elect good people with smart ideas and behavior: FDR, LBJ, Carter, Slick, Bear, and dang it for us all they weren't able to get in Mondale, Dukakis, Algore and Kerry.

[okie52]

I like the board for entertainment.

No one is changing anyone's opinions, thoughts, or ideas on anything remotely important. The constant focus on topics that realistically no one can do a thing about is sometimes perplexing. I just wonder if everyone knows that their long impassioned speeches on Obama, Hilary, Taxes, Benghazi, Voting etc. are all for naught. The people you back, right or left, are going to do whatever they want when in office. The right and left thing is just to throw your focus and con you into joining a "team."

I could probably help instead of bitching, but why not the focus on more local events and politics?

Yes - I think the majority of people that vote in this state are ignorant. Not stupid, they just don't have any idea of what or who they are voting for.

No problem with focusing on more local issues...like passing a ban on texting while driving.

Which states do you believe have the majority that are smart voters?

[champions77]

No problem with focusing on more local issues...like passing a ban on texting while driving.

Which states do you believe have the majority that are smart voters?

Amazing statement by Ton Loc when the last two Presidential elections were won in large part by "low information voters". I would bet that as a percentage, there were a lot more knowledgeable voters voting for Romney than The Messiah. Makes his statement that Oklahoma voters are "ignorant" seem a bit vindictive. I'm sure if Oklahoma voted for BHO he wouldn't have the same opinion.

[Ton Loc]

No problem with focusing on more local issues...like passing a ban on texting while driving.

Which states do you believe have the majority that are smart voters?

Zero - The majority of people who vote have no idea what they're doing.

I don't know why this is a shock to anyone. The people, state questions, etc you vote on like it that way. That way they can make dumb commercials, spread rumors, make large generic statements, and basically make it a choice of "good vs evil" or "left vs right."

[okie52]

Zero - The majority of people who vote have no idea what they're doing.

I don't know why this is a shock to anyone. The people, state questions, etc you vote on like it that way. That way they can make dumb commercials, spread rumors, make large generic statements, and basically make it a choice of "good vs evil" or "left vs right."

So you're just expressing your overall frustration with the "system" rather than just Okies...?

[FaninAma]

I like the board for entertainment.

No one is changing anyone's opinions, thoughts, or ideas on anything remotely important. The constant focus on topics that realistically no one can do a thing about is sometimes perplexing. I just wonder if everyone knows that their long impassioned speeches on Obama, Hilary, Taxes, Benghazi, Voting etc. are all for naught. The people you back, right or left, are going to do whatever they want when in office. The right and left thing is just to throw your focus and con you into joining a "team."

I could probably help instead of bitching, but why not the focus on more local events and politics?

Yes - I think the majority of people that vote in this state are ignorant. Not stupid, they just don't have any idea of what or who they are voting for.

That's all fine and well but don't throw out a statement that the majority of voters in this state are ignorant just because you don't agree with them and then pretend you are neutral on political issues in subsequent posts.

I am of the opinion that doing nothing is not an option especially if my kids are to have any opportunity to reach the goals I know they have for themselves and their own children. The cynicism and dumbing down of the electorate are the problems....not the politicians. We get the type of government and leaders we deserve. Their ****ty leadership is a direct reflection of our own ignorance and laziness.

Hillary Clinton is the consumate inside-the-beltway politician and she is all the great "Party of the People" can offer as their candidagte for the highest office in the land? And you dare to call the people of Oklahoma ignorant? You(and your elitist ,smug superior ilk), not those who vote their conscience and on principles in this state, are the problem.

[badger]

I think I've decided why Hillary won't admit she's a loser: Because Illinois and Arkansas upbringing transplanted to New York then DC= lots of mediocre sports.

Chicago Bears football in your youth can only equal years upon years of disappointment unless you were young in 1985... and Hillary is way to damn old to be young in the 80s.

Arkansas Razorbacks... so mediocre no wonder that state voted Bill Clinton for a decade. They won a few SWCs in the late 80s, but that '64 champion was loooong before Billary took office.

NY sports... hmmmm... take a stab in the dark and you'll probably guess correctly. I'll stab Knicks and let one of you stab Jets and someone else stab Giants post-Super Bowl etc etc etc

I don't know much about DC sports but RACIST MASCOT KD IS NOT A WIZARD YOU STOLE THE EXPOS garble garble garble.

OK, have I successfully derailed the thread?

[Serenity Now]

We get the type of government and leaders we deserve.

Have you seen who WE elect in our state government? Do you see some of the fools that we KEEP sending to Washington to represent us?

I've never been a big Hillary fan but she's 100 times more substantial than Inhofe. The vitriol that people have against her is so strong and irrational.

[Ton Loc]

That's all fine and well but don't throw out a statement that the majority of voters in this state are ignorant just because you don't agree with them and then pretend you are neutral on political issues in subsequent posts.

I am of the opinion that doing nothing is not an option especially if my kids are to have any opportunity to reach the goals I know they have for themselves and their own children. The cynicism and dumbing down of the electorate are the problems....not the politicians. We get the type of government and leaders we deserve. Their ****ty leadership is a direct reflection of our own ignorance and laziness.

Hillary Clinton is the consumate inside-the-beltway politician and she is all the great "Party of the People" can offer as their candidagte for the highest office in the land? And you dare to call the people of Oklahoma ignorant? You(and your elitist ,smug superior ilk), not those who vote their conscience and on principles in this state, are the problem.

I don't know wtf you are talking about. Those are some super crazy parallels to draw from me saying people are ignorant on voting issues. Or the fact that people complain on this board far too much about what they can't change or things that have already passed us by.

Some of you miss the entire point. Your reading comprehension could not overcome the crazy that lives inside of you and you have projected your craziness onto me - somehow turning me into what I guess is a liberal Hilary supporting leftist who looks down his nose at the poor stupid people of this state. Nice work!

Once again in even simpler terms :

1. The large majority of people - state and country wide - are ignorant to who and what they vote on.
2. People need to focus on state and local issues because you have almost no effect on national issues.

These are not new facts.

To the sane(ish) people. Thank you for your contributions and feel free to let this thread derail into yet another left vs right argument where nothing is gained but entertainment. rabble rabble rabble

[Ton Loc]

No problem with focusing on more local issues...like passing a ban on texting while driving.

Which states do you believe have the majority that are smart voters?

The new cellphone/texting ban. Another waste of time in my opinion when distracted driving laws already existed that cover such things. However, I guess in the large scheme of things - maybe the amount of attention it has been given will change some people's behaviors. I highly doubt it because I'm a skeptic and a hypocrite who still uses his cellphone while driving.

[Serenity Now]

The new cellphone/texting ban. Another waste of time in my opinion when distracted driving laws already existed that cover such things. However, I guess in the large scheme of things - maybe the amount of attention it has been given will change some people's behaviors. I highly doubt it because I'm a skeptic and a hypocrite who still uses his cellphone while driving.

Your'e right, mostly. I think it's good to have it so we can tell you, me, all of the other hypocrites and, more importantly, our kids, that there's a law against it.

[champions77]

That's all fine and well but don't throw out a statement that the majority of voters in this state are ignorant just because you don't agree with them and then pretend you are neutral on political issues in subsequent posts.

I am of the opinion that doing nothing is not an option especially if my kids are to have any opportunity to reach the goals I know they have for themselves and their own children. The cynicism and dumbing down of the electorate are the problems....not the politicians. We get the type of government and leaders we deserve. Their ****ty leadership is a direct reflection of our own ignorance and laziness.

Hillary Clinton is the consumate inside-the-beltway politician and she is all the great "Party of the People" can offer as their candidagte for the highest office in the land? And you dare to call the people of Oklahoma ignorant? You(and your elitist ,smug superior ilk), not those who vote their conscience and on principles in this state, are the problem.

+1 Can't agree more. It should not surprise us that he feels this way. Most leftist have similar condescending sentiments. You heard that with The "Great Divider's" off the record disdain about folks "clinging to their guns and religion". Interesting that the self professed smartest people in the world prey upon those with lowest levels of education and wages on the socio-economic scale. It just usually requires the promise of increasing the taxes on those wealthy bastards and creating or expanding the social programs to "buy" the votes necessary to perpetuate themselves in office, paid for by those same successful wealthy sob's they demonize on a daily basis.

[Serenity Now]

+1 Can't agree more. It should not surprise us that he feels this way. Most leftist have similar condescending sentiments. You heard that with The "Great Divider's" off the record disdain about folks "clinging to their guns and religion". Interesting that the self professed smartest people in the world prey upon those with lowest levels of education and wages on the socio-economic scale. It just usually requires the promise of increasing the taxes on those wealthy bastards and creating or expanding the social programs to "buy" the votes necessary to perpetuate themselves in office, paid for by those same successful wealthy sob's they demonize on a daily basis.

That's inaccurate. I live in a subdivision of about 25 homes. I can almost guarantee you that I'm the only Democrat. They're relatively wealthy. They're certainly smart. They cling more to their tax breaks. They also cling to their guns and their religion.

[Ton Loc]

+1 Can't agree more. It should not surprise us that he feels this way. Most leftist have similar condescending sentiments. You heard that with The "Great Divider's" off the record disdain about folks "clinging to their guns and religion". Interesting that the self professed smartest people in the world prey upon those with lowest levels of education and wages on the socio-economic scale. It just usually requires the promise of increasing the taxes on those wealthy bastards and creating or expanding the social programs to "buy" the votes necessary to perpetuate themselves in office, paid for by those same successful wealthy sob's they demonize on a daily basis.

Liar or Stupid

It can't be both. Either you're too stupid to read and comprehend what I wrote or you're a liar who read what I wrote and decided to ignore it and make up your own story.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Have you seen who WE elect in our state government? Do you see some of the fools that we KEEP sending to Washington to represent us?

I've never been a big Hillary fan but she's 100 times more substantial than Inhofe. The vitriol that people have against her is so strong and irrational.

LOL...Sad, indeed.

[champions77]

Liar or Stupid

It can't be both. Either you're too stupid to read and comprehend what I wrote or you're a liar who read what I wrote and decided to ignore it and make up your own story.

So now the name calling. A favorite of the left. Must have touched a nerve. What part of; "In summation - we're all screwed and stuck with the decisions of the overall ignorant majority of this state" do you want to retract?

[Serenity Now]

LOL...Sad, indeed.

I'm to take from your commentary that you agree with my comparison of Inhofe and Hillary?

[BoulderSooner79]

Name calling is a bipartisan sport on this forum. I never knew "-tard" was a suffix until I started reading here.

[champions77]

Name calling is a bipartisan sport on this forum. I never knew "-tard" was a suffix until I started reading here.

I agree, that's why I try and avoid it. Counterproductive.

[badger]

i stink at derailing threads