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Well let's get to the bad things caused by climate change... What exactly are they?
Is there global warming occurring without having anything to do with man? I believe so.
Does man contribute to this naturally occurring cycle? I believe he does this also.
How much is what's debatable, IMO.
I won't pretend it's real or unreal. I'll prefer to err on the side of caution, however, and I'll usually support reasonable conservation measures to reduce our footprint even if global warming wasn't an issue.
Going it alone as Obama and some others tried to do in 2009 by passing a cap and trade bill was close to economic suicide...particularly at the height of the recession. Obama tried to handcuff the U.S. Again in his climate bill with China that only required reductions on the U.S. For the next 16 years while China could continue to increase its emissions.
That is not rational to me
Admittedly, when I have referred to climate change in this thread, I'm referring to something much broader than simply climate change. I'm more concerned about ocean acidification than I am about the temperature rising or falling a couple degrees.
Also, I'm not a democrat, and I'm not a fan of Obama. Feel free to criticize him and and his party all you want, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.
no one i know talks about Soros as a hero
could you direct me to one of those posts?
Whatever has to be done to reduce CO2 (if that is indeed the culprit) should be done on a global basis with fair requirements for all countries and severe sanctions globally for those that don't comply.
Developing countries like China and India (as they like to call themselves) want the U.S. And Europe to pay them for going green yet they want us to ignore their incredibly overpopulated countries and the demands/strains it puts on natural resources and pollution control/containment.
We have a really strong strawman argument going on here. I never said anything about Obama, developing countries, etc.
Don't know about that, but Climate Change is not real. Just look at the real data. No data that is unfudged conforms to any so-called model...
I have not seen anything to convince me the data is there. Most of it is adjusted to conform to that theory. New reviews of NASA data shows some odd manipulation of the data that cannot be explained legitimately. No one can explain the sun radiation data and its pertibations to the climate cycle. Just saying, any climate debate can have holes poked in it. Certainly haven't proven anything and certainly is not "settled science".
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Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.
The climate never changes?
Last I heard, it was something to the extent of 95% published literature agrees that global warming is real, and that it is caused by human activity. There are plenty of details still up for debate, but that much isn't. I'm not sure data gets any more real than published scientific literature.Just look at the real data. No data that is unfudged conforms to any so-called model...
I guess that means there is about a 95% chance you're not a scientist.I have not seen anything to convince me the data is there.
Once again, 95% of the scientific community disagrees with that statement...plenty of which are conservative. It's about as settled as it gets.Certainly haven't proven anything and certainly is not "settled science".
Cigarettes don't cause lung cancer!
Bipartisan researchers determined that "climate gate" was nothing.