WILL BHO leave office in January 2017?

[olevetonahill]

Folks really worried about this need only take up residence in Texas. Governor Gregg Abbott has the Taxas National Guard monitoring federal military exercises to guard against the impending BHO order for marshal law. Word has it that a free tin hat will be provided with proof of residency.

So the guys an idiot!Does that make him WRONG to NOT trust the Govt?

[BoulderSooner79]

So the guys an idiot!Does that make him WRONG to NOT trust the Govt?

That level of paranoia is fine for some highly partisan recluse. Looks pretty dumb to bubble all the way up to the governor. At least some GOP state rep did call him on it (well, ex-state rep), so I'll give them credit for having at least one grown-up in the room:

In his letter to the governor, Todd Smith of Euless, who retired from public office in 2013, said he is “horrified that I have to choose between the possibility that my Governor actually believes this stuff and the possibility that my Governor doesn’t have the backbone to stand up to those who do.”

He said he wrote because the thought that the U.S. military would be a threat to Texas is “embarrassing” and it is important “to rational governance that thinking Republicans call you out on it.”

“Is there ANYBODY who is going to stand up to this radical nonsense that is a cancer on our State and our Party?” Smith asked.

I'm just glad to see a story like this with no association with OK.

[olevetonahill]

That level of paranoia is fine for some highly partisan recluse. Looks pretty dumb to bubble all the way up to the governor. At least some GOP state rep did call him on it (well, ex-state rep), so I'll give them credit for having at least one grown-up in the room:

In his letter to the governor, Todd Smith of Euless, who retired from public office in 2013, said he is “horrified that I have to choose between the possibility that my Governor actually believes this stuff and the possibility that my Governor doesn’t have the backbone to stand up to those who do.”

He said he wrote because the thought that the U.S. military would be a threat to Texas is “embarrassing” and it is important “to rational governance that thinking Republicans call you out on it.”

“Is there ANYBODY who is going to stand up to this radical nonsense that is a cancer on our State and our Party?” Smith asked.

I'm just glad to see a story like this with no association with OK.

My point being ! why not watch the Feds? it aint like they have never taken shait in their hands and screwed over the People is it?

While I think its a stretch I also think its very possible

[BoulderSooner79]

My point being ! why not watch the Feds? it aint like they have never taken shait in their hands and screwed over the People is it?

While I think its a stretch I also think its very possible

I don't trust the government either, but it's the one we have. A governor from Texas should feel he can request a meeting pretty high up in the administration and get the info he wants. If he doesn't, he can make a public stink about it. But sending state MILITARY to watch fed MILITARY is going too far, IMO. Does he really believe this shat or are there so many paranoids in Texas he feels he must appease them? Either way, I wouldn't want my governor to act this way.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

I don't trust the government either, but it's the one we have. A governor from Texas should feel he can request a meeting pretty high up in the administration and get the info he wants. If he doesn't, he can make a public stink about it. But sending state MILITARY to watch fed MILITARY is going too far, IMO. Does he really believe this shat or are there so many paranoids in Texas he feels he must appease them? Either way, I wouldn't want my governor to act this way.

BHO is an anti-American train wreck who deserves watching closely. I would imagine you don't believe that, and think there is nothing especially unusual about his behavior.

[olevetonahill]

I don't trust the government either, but it's the one we have. A governor from Texas should feel he can request a meeting pretty high up in the administration and get the info he wants. If he doesn't, he can make a public stink about it. But sending state MILITARY to watch fed MILITARY is going too far, IMO. Does he really believe this shat or are there so many paranoids in Texas he feels he must appease them? Either way, I wouldn't want my governor to act this way.

Its Politics . Pay Tention.

[BoulderSooner79]

BHO is an anti-American train wreck who deserves watching closely. I would imagine you don't believe that, and think there is nothing especially unusual about his behavior.

He's probably the most closely watched person in the world, as any president will be. You've got your own personal clone spin-off to watch him 24x7, so you should know.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

He's probably the most closely watched person in the world, as any president will be. You've got your own personal clone spin-off to watch him 24x7, so you should know.

You're so full of it. The Media should be ripping Bear apart, but they don't lift a finger nor bat an eye.

[BoulderSooner79]

You're so full of it. The Media should be ripping Bear apart, but they don't lift a finger nor bat an eye.

You obviously don't watch the national Fox News, so you're smarter than I've been giving you credit. Excusez-moi.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

You obviously don't watch the national Fox News, so you're smarter than I've been giving you credit. Excusez-moi.

I am so thrilled for having been called smart by a Leftist. Goody goody goody

[champions77]

I don't trust the government either, but it's the one we have. A governor from Texas should feel he can request a meeting pretty high up in the administration and get the info he wants. If he doesn't, he can make a public stink about it. But sending state MILITARY to watch fed MILITARY is going too far, IMO. Does he really believe this shat or are there so many paranoids in Texas he feels he must appease them? Either way, I wouldn't want my governor to act this way.

All lefties "trust the government". The government is everything to the left, everything. It's insulting how much they try and control most of everything, all because most of us peasants out here just couldn't function without their help. That's why they feel compelled to help us. The care about us, you know like the bumper stickers "Democrats Care". Any lefty that says he "doesn't trust the government either" is not being honest. If they didn't trust the government, they wouldn't put people in power that are intent in making the government bigger, more intrusive, more controlling and more powerful. Most would be Libertarians.

[BoulderSooner79]

All lefties "trust the government". The government is everything to the left, everything. It's insulting how much they try and control most of everything, all because most of us peasants out here just couldn't function without their help. That's why they feel compelled to help us. The care about us, you know like the bumper stickers "Democrats Care". Any lefty that says he "doesn't trust the government either" is not being honest. If they didn't trust the government, they wouldn't put people in power that are intent in making the government bigger, more intrusive, more controlling and more powerful. Most would be Libertarians.

I don't trust the government any more than the next guy. But I do believe in the order of law and the government represents the law, like it or not. We have a peaceful process for changing the law and that is very frustrating given the size of the federal government, but it is far preferable to violent alternatives. That amounts to throwing in the towel and starting new (perhaps multiple) governments(s). What Mr. Doosh Texas governor is doing amounts to drawing a line in the sand with implications of using force. That should be reserved for issues that are clear and present, not some fringe conspiracy theory that are hardly even believable. This seems more out of line than typical political posturing (IMO, of course).

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Bear has done lots of illegal stuff, and the Media gives him and all democrats a pass. The American people have gone out of their way to refrain from doing anything that would start civil disobedience and disrupt the economy. They will continue to do that, little doubt, because societal breakdown is something most rational people certainly don't want. So, the democrats will keep pushing their agenda.

[BoulderSooner79]

Bear has done lots of illegal stuff, and the Media gives him and all democrats a pass. The American people have gone out of their way to refrain from doing anything that would start civil disobedience and disrupt the economy. They will continue to do that, little doubt, because societal breakdown is something most rational people certainly don't want. So, the democrats will keep pushing their agenda.

We certainly agree on the line in bold above. I do believe in civil disobedience as an effective way to get those in power to notice, but that's a far cry from taking up arms. It's also very hard to do because there is a fringe element that lusts for violence and will always show up at any peaceful protest with sole intention of turning it violent. It's the "**** in the soup to make it bad for everyone" mentality.

But when you say "the American people" you make it sound like everyone. I don't know personally know anyone that wants to start civil disobedience. All the republican and anti-Obama people I know just want to follow the process and win the next set of elections. And logically it would seem that democrats are not itching to hit the streets, so that is roughly half the populous not needing to refrain themselves. Or are democrats so evil to you they don't even count as American people even though many are your neighbors?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

There are many American citizens who don't love our country, and don't believe it has been a force for good. Some of them are in charge of political power. It is a problem for the country, and will continue to be. Don't act surprised, or like you don't understand that.

[Serenity Now]

There are many American citizens who don't love our country, and don't believe it has been a force for good. Some of them are in charge of political power. It is a problem for the country, and will continue to be. Don't act surprised, or like you don't understand that.

There's a difference in what you say and people who think that we're not perfect and that we've made mistakes. The world view of "American Exceptionalism" seems to think that any critique of our history is anti-American back to slavery, American Indian genocide, etc. I love when Dinesh and Co. try to let it be known that slaves were treated great. A great country can still have flaws.

[champions77]

There's a difference in what you say and people who think that we're not perfect and that we've made mistakes. The world view of "American Exceptionalism" seems to think that any critique of our history is anti-American back to slavery, American Indian genocide, etc. I love when Dinesh and Co. try to let it be known that slaves were treated great. A great country can still have flaws.

Slaves were not all treated great, never heard Dinesh state that, he's smarter than that. But neither were they all treated terribly. They were an asset, why damage an asset that you paid good money for? As a matter of fact, many freed slaves elected to stay with their Master, when they were free to leave after the War.

Somewhat analogous to what you see today. Dependent (opposite of independent) people elect to remain on Uncle Sam's Plantation. Free to go, free to search for a better life, a more prosperous future, but remain in a hopeless, futureless abyss of dependency and despair.

If the Great Society welfare programs were not the most ill conceived, poorly thought out, virtue damaging programs ever enacted in this country, please name me the ones worse? Nothing has undermined the virtues of self reliance and personal responsibility like the federal social programs, nothing.

[Serenity Now]

Slaves were not all treated great, never heard Dinesh state that, he's smarter than that. But neither were they all treated terribly. They were an asset, why damage an asset that you paid good money for? As a matter of fact, many freed slaves elected to stay with their Master, when they were free to leave after the War.

Somewhat analogous to what you see today. Dependent (opposite of independent) people elect to remain on Uncle Sam's Plantation. Free to go, free to search for a better life, a more prosperous future, but remain in a hopeless, futureless abyss of dependency and despair.

If the Great Society welfare programs were not the most ill conceived, poorly thought out, virtue damaging programs ever enacted in this country, please name me the ones worse? Nothing has undermined the virtues of self reliance and personal responsibility like the federal social programs, nothing.

There were surely some nice slave owners. There were some friendly Europeans to the Indians. They still killed off millions of innocents.

NAFTA?

[champions77]

There were surely some nice slave owners. There were some friendly Europeans to the Indians. They still killed off millions of innocents.

NAFTA?

I agree. Slavery is a horrible institution. No way to defend it, none. But can't you agree that the well intentioned "War on Poverty" has created enormous problems in this country? Look no further than Baltimore to see the effects of these social programs, enacted to lift the poor out of poverty so they could be better equipped to pursue a better life, but sadly we see the results. Generations on welfare, creating angry neighborhoods of folks with no hope, no future, just despair. They stay with the Dems because they are afraid of what they'll get with the GOP. Kind of like the Slaves that stayed with the Master after the War, afraid to leave, not knowing what the future would bring. Content on the present, because they know what the present brings.

[olevetonahill]

Africans been enslaving Africans for thousands of years. and they still do it.
The White southerner didnt hire a ship and go Africa and Capture him a Boat load. The Blacks there had their own slave markets set up to sell em. There for the Whites never enslaved any of em they just bot em already as slaves