looking for a real answer, why is The Leftist negotiating with Aryan, err, Iran?

[Turd_Ferguson]

Its in the thread because it's true. Hindsight of course but Iraq has been a horrible morass. AQ's goal was to use 9/11 to draw us more fully into the Middle East. Knowing that doing so would generate people against us. They were playing chess. We were playing checkers. We need to start playing chess.

Uhm yeah, I think you're reaching there...Them stupid goat ****ers know one thing...kill 'merican's/non-mooslens...They don't know **** about chess.

[TAFBSooner]

Hindsight of course

Agree with your post, but that phrase is too kind. Except for W himself, the Cheney administration knew what they were doing and where it would lead.

Ironically enough, the CIA invented the word blowback.

[Turd_Ferguson]

Agree with your post, but that phrase is too kind. Except for W himself, the Cheney administration knew what they were doing and where it would lead.

Ironically enough, the CIA invented the word blowback.

Guess you must've been in the situation room with Cheney and company...Please, tell us more.

[Serenity Now]

Halliburton & Co. Did pretty well. Just liketom cotton speaking at a defense contractors thing a few days after that silly letter.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

SP, all your arguements went out the window today. Kerry, The Leftist and all of Europe are ready to allow Aryan to continue to centrifuge uranium in underground protected bunkers. No doubt is left that the Persians want the bomb and The Leftist will allow them to have the bomb. The is, unless The Leftist was secretly able to incorporate explosive devices into the contruction of the underground bunkers and can implode them at will once they have full production going... Doubt that.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

...Iraq has been a horrible morass. AQ's goal was to use 9/11 to draw us more fully into the Middle East. Knowing that doing so would generate people against us. They were playing chess. We were playing checkers. We need to start playing chess.

The Islamists weren't playing anything. They engaged in an act of war on the USA on 9-11-01. We p*ssyfooted, and have continued to do so, in response to their slaughter of Americans and American property. We can thank the PC crowd for that, the Media, big Entertainment and the Public Schools. Sounds like we agree on that set of events.

[SoonerProphet]

SP, all your arguements went out the window today. Kerry, The Leftist and all of Europe are ready to allow Aryan to continue to centrifuge uranium in underground protected bunkers. No doubt is left that the Persians want the bomb and The Leftist will allow them to have the bomb. The is, unless The Leftist was secretly able to incorporate explosive devices into the contruction of the underground bunkers and can implode them at will once they have full production going... Doubt that.

Link?

I've read that the issue at Fordo would end uranium enrichment there in exchange for enrichment at Natanz. Again, if you think any deal can get done allowing zero enrichment then it is a non-starter for Iran. Claims about an impending nuclear armed Iran are a bit hyperbolic.

[TheHumanAlphabet]

just google AP

[Serenity Now]

The last 13 years we have "*****footed"? Come on Rumsfeld. We have killed SIGNIFICANTLY more innocents than AQ. And, in doing so, we created a ****load of jihadists seeking revenge - exactly what they wanted. Bin laden was like Patton looking through he binoculars taunting Rommel "I read your book!"

I think our efforts in Afghanistan were fine. Hindsight indicates that we got out over our skis in Iraq.

Public schools? WTF? Please detail that for me.

[SoonerProphet]

just google AP

This one?

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2015/...entrifuges-at/

The United States is considering letting Tehran run hundreds of centrifuges at a once-secret, fortified underground bunker in exchange for limits on centrifuge work and research and development at other sites, officials have told The Associated Press

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

The last 13 years we have "*****footed"? Come on Rumsfeld. We have killed SIGNIFICANTLY more innocents than AQ. And, in doing so, we created a ****load of jihadists seeking revenge - exactly what they wanted. Bin laden was like Patton looking through he binoculars taunting Rommel "I read your book!"

I think our efforts in Afghanistan were fine. Hindsight indicates that we got out over our skis in Iraq.

Public schools? WTF? Please detail that for me.

What a horsesh*t post!! and I was hoping you were starting to turn on some lights.

[Serenity Now]

Whatever, you're the one blaming the public schools for the problems in the middle east - Those damned small school superintendents!!!!

We ran through Afghanistan and Iraq with extreme prejudice. I was (and am) OK with the first part of that but not the second part (with the benefit of hindsight...which I can admit). The problem is that we created a vacuum that has been filled by people who are worse than who was there. I don't know what I said that is horse****. Maybe someone other than you should highlight it as you might have some objectivity issues.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Maybe someone other than you should highlight it as you might have some objectivity issues.

ah, the stupid card. They jest cain't hep it!

[Serenity Now]

ah, the stupid card. They jest cain't hep it!

I was referring to your lack of objectivity with me, in particular, not your intellect. But, maybe you're right. I'll leave that with you.

Awaiting the "horse****" detail.

http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/objectivity

"Objectivity is a noun that means a lack of bias, judgment, or prejudice."

You don't like me from the old days and you're not objective.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Awaiting the "horse****" detail.

After WWII we(America) has never been allowed to fully engage. That was understandable in Vietnam, since Russia and China were real threats. However, in Iraq and Afghanistan we have allowed the PC voices to prevail. Nobody who is honest would doubt that. Nor would honest people deny that PC and "America is at fault" people have gained increasing and operational control over most of the public institutions.

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!
ah, the stupid card. They jest cain't hep it!

I was referring to your lack of objectivity with me, in particular, not your intellect. But, maybe you're right. I'll leave that with you.

2nd stupid card. How many you throwing today?

[SoonerProphet]

After WWII we(America) has never been allowed to fully engage. That was understandable in Vietnam, since Russia and China were real threats. However, in Iraq and Afghanistan we have allowed the PC voices to prevail. Nobody who is honest would doubt that. Nor would honest people deny that PC and "America is at fault" people have gained increasing and operational control over most of the public institutions.

What exactly are you implying here? Full war production, the draft, rationing and tax raises to pay for full scale mobilization? Genocide and a clash of civilizations? What does "fully engaged" even mean?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

What exactly are you implying here? Full war production, the draft, rationing and tax raises to pay for full scale mobilization? Genocide and a clash of civilizations?

Do you really think that's what I mean? If you say yes, you are likely disingenuous or maybe WAY beyond just a koolaid drinker of the Leftist, blame America First crowd.

[SoonerProphet]

Do you really think that's what I mean? If you say yes, you are likely disingenuous or maybe WAY beyond just a koolaid drinker of the Leftist, blame America First crowd.

What does "fully engaged" even mean?

[RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone!]

What does "fully engaged" even mean?

Allowed to do things that would secure objectives and not place our troops in positions more dangerous than is actually necessary. I believe you knew that, and are very reluctant to even talk about the problem. It certainly isn't in the forefront of your concerns.