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    Re: This is what our new Leach Clone thinks is a big time recruit?

    I just want to say one last thing about this thread. Some coaches have earned the right for you not to question their talent evaluation (SOSjr at WR, BJW at DE). Our new WR coach has broken 2 NCAA receiving records with walkons (including Ryan Broyle's career record). It probably isn't enough for this board, but for me I'm willing to trust his judgement until proven otherwise.

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    Re: This is what our new Leach Clone thinks is a big time recruit?

    Quote Originally Posted by jkm, the stolen pifwafwi View Post
    I just want to say one last thing about this thread. Some coaches have earned the right for you not to question their talent evaluation (SOSjr at WR, BJW at DE). Our new WR coach has broken 2 NCAA receiving records with walkons (including Ryan Broyle's career record). It probably isn't enough for this board, but for me I'm willing to trust his judgement until proven otherwise.
    This coach hasn't proven anything except that in an offense that throws the ball 60-70 times a game anyone in a uniform will catch a lot of footballs. It means nothing. Wazzu was 3-9; 2-9 versusu FBS competition.

    I'm sure all of the Wazzu fans are just pleased, though, with their 3-9 season because their offense put the ball in the air enough times to break some receiving records.
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    Re: This is what our new Leach Clone thinks is a big time recruit?

    Let's understand something, we hope our coaches are here to win champions, not set offensive records. Here is the difference between a championship program and Wazzu/ECU:

    Ohio State: Passing efficiency ranking - 2
    409 attempts
    260 completions
    12 interceptions thrown
    3707 yards
    42 touchdowns

    Wazzu: Passing efficiency ranking - 29
    771 attempts
    510 completions
    18 interceptions thrown
    5732 yards
    45 touchdowns

    ECU: Passing efficiency ranking - 41
    637 attempts
    402 completions
    11 interceptions thrown
    4835 yards
    31 touchdowns

    We have hired run-of-the-mill garbage running or helping run offenses that will prevent us from being a championship team. Small school have to run tricked up offenses and defenses because they can't recruit well enough to run balanced offenses. And, most of them are still terrible.

    It's sad that we've traded our school's traditional power status for small school offense and defense. The 8-5 record doesn't lie. Neither did Wazzu's 3-9 and ECU's 8-5. Mired in mediocrity, we went out and hired mediocrity.

    And, now, they are looking under rocks for players, like small schools have to do, instead of chasing the best players in the country. It's embarrassing.
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    Re: This is what our new Leach Clone thinks is a big time recruit?

    Wazzu's biggest problem was no D, it wasn't offense (a Mike Leach team? Who'dathunkit?)

    That said, they lost by a field goal to Rutgers, a TD to Oregon, a point to Cal...no, it wasn't a terrific season, but still. You've already declared this season a bust, so why bother 'splaining this to you? Your name belies your attitude...looks more like you're putting up walls.

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    Re: This is what our new Leach Clone thinks is a big time recruit?

    We be undefeated for the next 6 months! ENJOY!
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: This is what our new Leach Clone thinks is a big time recruit?

    Washington State - Scoring offense, #45
    Oklahoma - Scoring offense, #20

    Wazzu had more problems that defense.

    If our head coach thinks the way out of his on the field problems is to take his mediocre set of QBs and WRs and rely on them, he's in for another long season with five losses...or, more.
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    Re: This is what our new Leach Clone thinks is a big time recruit?

    Comparing Wazzu to OU is like comparing a BMW to a Kia (no offense meant to anyone that owns a Kia).

    On athletic talent alone, OU blows Wazzu away in every category. There's absolutely no way to look at what Wazzu has done and make an assessment on what OU will do. No possible way.

    This thread was about a single recruit (and I don't mind that it's morphed into something else) but TDTW...maybe you should at least see how things play out before criticizing every move the staff makes). At the very least, you have to acknowledge that nobody knows how things will turn out. It just seems a little crazy to tear apart everything being done without any idea if it will work, or not.

    If it doesn't work, then you can come back crow about how you "saw it coming". If it does work, you're going to look a little goofy.

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    Re: This is what our new Leach Clone thinks is a big time recruit?

    OU last year - 54% completion rate
    ECU - 66% completion rate

    Seriously, if he can find/coach guys to catch the ball we should be okay.

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