Just saw where a 4 star recruit (Jean Delance) decommitted From Oklahoma over a racist statement made by the SAE fraternity. How can this occur? Whether or not Delance goes elsewhere to play football, one must ask how things like this racism could possibly take place at OU. I cannot believe it. The only positive is that at least protests are taking place on campus against these acts from SAE...
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SAE has been in and out of trouble for decades. Heck when I was there in the early 90s they just got back on campus from a 5 year ban.
Lots of smoke on TFB that Delance had been waffling on his commitment before this SAE debacle, but only Delance knows for sure. Not good when OU has this kind of story on the top of CNN and Google news websites. I at least hope all the Boren haters out there give him credit for acting swiftly and decisively. But I'm sure they won't because, hey, haters gonna hate.
When one of your main points of pride on the SAE website is it's the only fraternity founded in the antebellum South and nearly all the nearly 400 members fought for the Confederacy in the Civil War, are we really surprised? Apparently 150 years later they're still partying like it's 1865.
Why can you not believe it? The frats had a racist and elitist reputation when I went to OU in the 80s and it appears nothing has changed.Originally Posted by vtsooner21
So, boren isn't a supporter of sponsoring organizations conducting in racist behavior. Do you seriously believe that, that is so exceptional and courageous where everyone should change their mind about his historically egregious, history?
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The only connection between his decommittment and the video is timing. He's been looking at other schools for weeks and had announced he & a buddy are a package deal. He's talked about concerns with the depth chart - there might be too many young OTs in front of him.
I'm sure Delance didn't like what he saw but I also think it gave him some rationale to do what he was already thinking about doing.
No. I just stated that haters wouldn't give him credit for handling something well - they can only dwell on what they don't like.
And he really didn't need rationale. It's pretty common for recruits to flip flop on verbals - especially early commits. He may well flip back before it's all said and done.
What is there to like? SAE nationals had already pulled the plug on that chapter. It's like firing somebody that just quit.
To my knowledge, all he really did was force them to move out their house within about 36 hours during the busiest week of the year other than finals week. He just jeopardized the grades of a lot of innocent students to save face publicly.
How much credit does he deserve here? He is not doing anything more than he absolutely has to, to not look like a complete scumbag.No. I just stated that haters wouldn't give him credit for handling something well - they can only dwell on what they don't like.
I am obviously happy that he did it, but he doesn't deserve some kind of medal for it, this was no risk. It doesn't change the fact that he hasn't done so many terrible things.
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Back in the late 70s or early 80s they were in trouble, I forget what, but something similar. To the point people were stealing "for sale" house signs and putting them in the SAE yard...
Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.
The part that upsets me most is the person taking the video on their phone, but NOT protesting the actions themselves. Just being a snitch and not having the courage to do something to stop the action on the bus. People will find something to point at what is different ftom them...color, sex, size, economics, but my mother said when you point a finger there are 4 more pointing back at you.
really? I never was in a frat, but knew plenty of folks that were...the "pressure" to conform is tremendous. It's generational sometimes...you want to be the one that brings them down?
How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!
What if the football team was filmed singing about the very wonderful Jewish community in a negative light? They wouldn't because they are mentored to show respect, unlike the naive geeks that didn't think things through. That dude at the end of the sae clip saying, "no,no, no!", or whatever he said was comical. Reminded me of black sheep when farley is on stage at rock the vote yelling "kill whitey!", while the black dudes in the background are whispering to him "nooooo".
Recording the video had far more reach and impact and action than simply protesting at the time. Without it, we would never have known. Now we do.
My guess is the video taker was wearing heels, a prom dress and on I-35 somewhere between Norman and OKC. One moment you protest, the next you're standing on the side of I-35 trying to hitchhike a ride home... for all we know, it was during those "snow storms" we've had lately, or at least it might have been the freezing weather that extended into March this year.Just being a snitch and not having the courage to do something to stop the action on the bus
As much as I would have loved to have seen someone stomp off the bus disgusted, we don't know the context... or for all we know, right after/before the video someone did. It's only a few seconds long
What was the frat that used to have the flag way up on an impossible-to-climb pole for a week or two and, if you were able to take the flag they'd throw you a 50-keg party or some such thing? I don't know exactly how long it went on, but I remember it in the early/mid 80s when I was a teen.
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