I have gone over all of this before. I have a private sector job, I have all of my life. I see you have been completely and totally indoctrinated by the far right – ie the koch’s – that anything other than what they define as capitalism is socialism. It shows how little you know about me and economics. I see by your signature you are obsessed with ferretting out “socialism”. I’m a dedicated leftist? That is laughable. I like to joke, I was a blue dog conservative democrat, until 2008 when my conservative friends told me I was a communist, even though I didn’t change my views. Tell me - is knowing unions help raise wages, a progressive income tax system, regulations that keep financial markets do not rip off consumers and lead us to another rescission that we have to bailout so we won’t fall into a depression socialism?
You see I live in Kansas and I have a front row seat of what the Koch’s want to inflict upon America. The Koch’s don’t mind taxes because the legislature that is a wholly owned subsidiary of the koch’s has a ton of ideas on how to raise taxes with the key feature being none of the taxes are on them. The Koch’s don’t pay income taxes in Kansas as do around 350 thousand other wealthy Kansans. ALL of the proposed tax increases hit the middle class and poor, not the wealthy.
You want to talk about a hitching your wagon to such a flawed economic system and considering all the ways they've damaged America, you need to focus on the unfettered capitalism the Kochs espouse and you very willingly follow. It was the lack of regulation that got us into the great depression and great recession and cuttin’ taxes to the wealthy didn’t keep it from happening. History has a way of repeating itself, after Hoover oversaw the greatest economic collapse in our history he ran around the country complaining how FDR brought us out of it, claiming socialism the whole way.
You talk about "being a beacon for personal freedom and liberties" but it is republicans who want to interfere with the lives and private decisions of women, birth control, abortion, same sex marraige if you can have direct deposit from YOUR paycheck to the union you belong to. Tell me - who gets to decide what are personal freedom and liberties? Is it any gun? Any ammo? You personally not paying taxes? Tell me what “personal freedom and liberties” have been taken away from YOU.
Last edited by Sooner8th; 2/27/2015 at 10:29 AM.
Well did he give a straight answer? or Lie and Obfuscate ?
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Hey 8th, DID you answer Champ77s questions?
I dont think he asked for specifics like the name of the company you say you work. Just generic info, Like WHAT kind of Job do you do? Do you have any previous Military. That sort of thing.
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The fact that you refer to yourself as a "conservative" is all anyone needs to hear. You are lock step with every radical left idea that your hero has presented to this country. I don't know what you lefties always run from your tags. First you run from liberal to progressive. Then you have a problem with being called a socialist, or a communist. Conservatives, I have never heard one person run from being called that, ever. That should tell you something right there.
Koch Brothers? They employ 50,000 people in this country. That outweighs any perceived shortcomings you have of them I can assure you.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, it's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-----Winston Churchill
I see that you, as well as a few other posters on here, have been thoroughly indoctrinated by the right. Out of blue dog conservative democrat the only word that registered was conservative. That shows me you have two categories of political persuasion – conservatives and socialist. I have to admit – the right does a great job of brainwashing their lemmings. I didn’t claim to be a conservative. Nor am I “running” from being called a liberal. I see you have all the talking points down leftist, socialists and communists. I don’t have to run from being called a socialist or a communist because I am neither, and if you think I am that proves just how brainwashed you are. You again claim I am in “lock step with every radical left idea that your hero has presented to this country” wrong on both accounts. I do not have to prove anything to anyone on here – I have stated it before. Your and yours on the other hand are in lock step against the President. It does not matter what he does – it is wrong.
You have never heard of a person running from being called a conservative? How about dubya running as a companionate conservative? I am sure that the only word you saw was conservative.
As for the Koch’s employing 50k people – does that give them the right to take over the government? It makes it ok that an unelected group of people control our state government? You can assure me that 50k jobs outweighs taking a surplus to a huge deficit? You can assure me that 50k jobs outweighs eliminating their taxes while raising everyone else’s? I thought conservatives hated redistribution of income. Are those “perceived shortcomings”? No those are real ones, ones that affect me, my family and the state I live in. If a democrat was doing the same thing as the koch’s are here in kansas – you and yours would be screaming tyranny!
Report that I read says the Koch Bros. have 60000 employees, not
that that makes any difference, just striving for accuracy..