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    Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    This makes it look even worse than what is being kicked around in the you didn't build it thread.

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    Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.

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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    It would be one thing if it were just a wealth transfer from one class of voters to another but it is also a wealth transfer from future generations of producers to CURRENT entitlement recipients.
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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    so, it's like closer to 60%, not 47%...nice.

    for 8th, yes, I "get" more from the gov that I put in...

    I'll charge $100 per week, per kid, child-care wages...that's about $20K more a year than I make now.
    How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!

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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    let's compare that to the quintiles of income and wealth. i'll weep for the top 20% when the bottom can actually make a living wage

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    How about your bottom get off their ***, have a skill that people will pay for that living wage... Flipping burgers or a degree in ethnic studies is not a long term strategy, per se...
    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.

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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    let's compare that to the quintiles of income and wealth. i'll weep for the top 20% when the bottom can actually make a living wage
    And the government is working wonders at reducing the income gap. LOL
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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    man, if they would only let trickle down economics work!

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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    Yup...let's keep punishing people for being successful. Ridiculous!!!!

    The top 1 percent of taxpayers pay more in federal income taxes than the bottom 90 percent. As you can see in the chart below, this is a stark change from the 1980s and early 1990s. But since the early 1980s, the share of taxes paid by the bottom 90 percent has steadily declined.

    An interesting piece of information from the chart below is that after the 01/03 Bush tax cuts, often claimed to be a tax cut for the rich, the tax burden of the top 1 percent actually increased significantly.

    The best solution would be to shift away from a tax code that punishes high-earners, savings, and investment and towards a tax code that collects revenue from a consumption base, which provides more stable revenue and mitigates the current code’s bias against savings, investment, and, correspondingly, economic growth.

    http://taxfoundation.org/blog/top-1-...tom-90-percent


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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    if the top 1% doesn't like paying most of the taxes, maybe they should not make most of the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    if the top 1% doesn't like paying most of the taxes, maybe they should not make most of the money
    HAHAHA good one..... I remember an article in the paper an interview with some local billionaire, he had a check on his wall for $734,000,000 that he paid in income taxes one year. He sold a casino in vegas, he was bitching about having to pay so much in taxes and i though god i wish i had to pay that much in taxes - look at the money he made to have to pay that much in taxes.

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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    i'll trade paychecks and tax bills any time...

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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    man, if they would only let trickle down economics work!
    It would appear that it is in fact "trickle down" economics albeit the government version. Trickle down from the people paying into the pockets of those who do not.

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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    Yermom, Sooner8th, instead of posting your witty, pithy comments how about addressing the fact that reditributionist federal government policies don't seem to be narrowing the income gap. Why is that? My assertion is that these redistributionist policies actually help the 1% (and especially the 0.1%) gain even more wealth. The bottom 40% simply are conduits for the government to take money from the middle class via taxes and route it thrpough various entitlement programs to the most wealthy. Deficit government spending hurts future generations but benefits large corporations immensley. Or are you two the only progressives on the planet who think crony capitalism is a good thing?

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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    if the top 1% doesn't like paying most of the taxes, maybe they should not make most of the money
    You are right, they are the ones that take all the risk opening up businesses and providing jobs for the local economy...maybe they should just do that **** for fun...right? Cuz, that's why you go to work...cuz it's fun.

    This is the mentality that kills me...bastardize the success people in this country and make them the evil ones! Unfvcking real...success people are BAD!!! MMMMMkay


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    Re: Breakout by quintile of who payers vs takers

    Quote Originally Posted by FaninAma View Post
    Yermom, Sooner8th, instead of posting your witty, pithy comments how about addressing the fact that reditributionist federal government policies don't seem to be narrowing the income gap. Why is that? My assertion is that these redistributionist policies actually help the 1% (and especially the 0.1%) gain even more wealth. The bottom 40% simply are conduits for the government to take money from the middle class via taxes and route it thrpough various entitlement programs to the most wealthy. Deficit govbernment spending hurts future generations but benefits large corporations immensley. Or are you two the only progressives on the planet who think crony capitalism is a good thing?

    connect the dots for me here. what in what i said has anything to do with that backing crony capitalism?

    the income gap comes out of this profit first, short-term thinking of the current business climate.

    what's that? i can show a huge profit this quarter by laying off 30,000 employees? that aught to help my bonus. how much bigger would it be if i moved most of our operation to some 3rd world country?

    aw man, this company tanked? can i have my golden parachute now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner in Tampa View Post
    You are right, they are the ones that take all the risk opening up businesses and providing jobs for the local economy...maybe they should just do that **** for fun...right? Cuz, that's why you go to work...cuz it's fun.

    This is the mentality that kills me...bastardize the success people in this country and make them the evil ones! Unfvcking real...success people are BAD!!! MMMMMkay
    Are you fvcking kidding me? CEO's took the all the risk opening up businesses and providing jobs for the local economy? Where do you get this sh!t at? Do you think boeing, gm, ford, ge, ect, ect, ect CEO's started those businesses? CEO's who start their business have stock that makes the rich. Most don't pay themselves huge salaries. We are talking about these ceo's who were hired by the board made up by a bunch of their golf buddies. You do know there are two executive search firms who pretty much control who gets interviews and who gets hired. it's all very chummy. What we are talking about is the CEO who was hired at some firm and their primary concern is how much he/she is making. Two new things in this arena is the high level of pay going down to VP's and now board of directors compensation. Some of the compensation packages for these folks on these boards is in the hundred of millions, but by god if some line workers want a raise they scream SOCIALISM and unions are killing us. Then they ship the jobs to asia or mexico or central america.

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    Bitter and Clueless

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREX View Post
    Bitter and Clueless
    You sure are...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by yermom View Post
    connect the dots for me here. what in what i said has anything to do with that backing crony capitalism?

    the income gap comes out of this profit first, short-term thinking of the current business climate.

    what's that? i can show a huge profit this quarter by laying off 30,000 employees? that aught to help my bonus. how much bigger would it be if i moved most of our operation to some 3rd world country?

    aw man, this company tanked? can i have my golden parachute now?
    1.Name the company that makes billions in administering the SNAP program.
    2. How much income does Walmart derive from EBT cards?
    3. What is the savings rate of the bottom half of income earners?
    4. Where does the vast majority of government transfers eventually end up.....saved or spent?

    And the biggest corporate subsidy of all:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...re-queens.html

    http://www.examiner.com/article/j-p-...mps-every-year
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