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    "You didn't build it"

    One of my liberal friends posted this somewhere. They were mocking this conservative businessman of course.




    I remember we had a spirited discussion about this when Obama first foolishly said it. Infuriating to me as a business owner of course.
    None of those listed (GOV) things would exist without the economic activity created by all the small businessmen, like the guy pictured, that pays for all of it.

    This made me realize how cut and dry the liberal vs conservative argument is.
    The liberal thinks that business cannot exist without government.
    The conservative knows that government cannot exist without business.

    There is lots of history to support my simple statement.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    It's a chicken vs egg argument, but it is very obvious that business has always come first, then government is created to meet demand.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTip View Post
    One of my liberal friends posted this somewhere. They were mocking this conservative businessman of course.




    I remember we had a spirited discussion about this when Obama first foolishly said it. Infuriating to me as a business owner of course.
    None of those listed (GOV) things would exist without the economic activity created by all the small businessmen, like the guy pictured, that pays for all of it.

    This made me realize how cut and dry the liberal vs conservative argument is.
    The liberal thinks that business cannot exist without government.
    The conservative knows that government cannot exist without business.

    There is lots of history to support my simple statement.
    You still don't understand Obama wasn't talking about the business, he was talking about the infrastructure that the business didn't build that brings customers to your business or you transport your goods to customers on.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    The obama folk say, "no no, that is taken out of context." No it's not. He meant it how it was said. "Business cannot exist without government. You need us."
    Like I said, on a primitive level that is wrong. Government was invented to protect commerce. Commerce came first, and existed without government.

    Of course it's all interconnected now. But that's like saying that lumber guy didn't build his business, it was his lumber supply company that enabled him to thrive. Or the company that built his building.

    The original statement is just stupid. And insulting.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTip View Post
    The obama folk say, "no no, that is taken out of context." No it's not. He meant it how it was said. "Business cannot exist without government. You need us."
    Like I said, on a primitive level that is wrong. Government was invented to protect commerce. Commerce came first, and existed without government.

    Of course it's all interconnected now. But that's like saying that lumber guy didn't build his business, it was his lumber supply company that enabled him to thrive. Or the company that built his building.

    The original statement is just stupid. And insulting.
    How he said it was he was talking about the American system, roads ect. You are reading into it what the republican party wants you to read into it. Anything can be taken out of context. Tell me who built the roads and educated the people who work for you and are your customers? He gave the example of the internet that proves his point.

    Show me where he said "Business cannot exist without government. You need us." like you claim.


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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Should be a sticky. The private sector IS the economy. SOCIALISM SUCKS!
    Put a lid on it! Kiss it goodbye. We gave it away, and apparently thought it made sense to do so.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    how's the fart sniffing going 8th? got any Riedel glasses for that yet?
    Everything progressives do is aimed at weakening democracy, capitalism and the social and cultural institutions that support those things...... They are about subjugating people and being a ruling class.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH LIMBAUGH is my clone! View Post
    Should be a sticky. The private sector IS the economy. SOCIALISM SUCKS!
    Don't tell that to jeep..............

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHumanAlphabet View Post
    how's the fart sniffing going 8th? got any Riedel glasses for that yet?
    Just can't help yourself can you? If you want to have a serious discussion, be serious.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner8th View Post
    Just can't help yourself can you? If you want to have a serious discussion, be serious.
    This made me shoot a small piece of chicken breast out of my right nostrel...

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    And what paid for all that Gov't----Tax dollars from business------Thank God we don't get all the Gov't we pay for

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner8th View Post
    Tell me who built the roads and educated the people who work for you and are your customers?
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    I did! Me me me. I paid the taxes that had that happen. I am the government. The government is there to serve me. Just like any service I pay for.

    It is such a simple concept.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by Turd_Ferguson View Post
    This made me shoot a small piece of chicken breast out of my right nostrel...
    Welp, TF, ya orta be eatin' wings...heh!

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTip View Post
    I did! Me me me. I paid the taxes that had that happen. I am the government. The government is there to serve me. Just like any service I pay for.

    It is such a simple concept.
    So you paid all the taxes to build that huh?

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner8th View Post
    You still don't understand Obama wasn't talking about the business, he was talking about the infrastructure that the business didn't build that brings customers to your business or you transport your goods to customers on.
    WHO paid for that infrastructure? TAXES...who pays for taxes? US....oh thanks for my cush gov salary!
    How do you know if you get there, if you don't know where you are going?..oh and I had 1,713 post on the "other board"..I hate being a rookie again!

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    8th insn't going to believe anything as the truth which isn't sourced from Government approved, (DNC) origins. You guys are pissing in the wind thinking he'll ever be anything but the useful "id 10 t" that Gruber and his ilk depend on to perform their chicanery on the rest of the American public.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by Soonerjeepman View Post
    WHO paid for that infrastructure? TAXES...who pays for taxes? US....oh thanks for my cush gov salary!
    So he DIDN'T build it alone. You are finally seeing what obama was saying. Of course taxes pay for it, you people are under the impression only conservatives pay taxes.

    I didn't see you post much over the weekend but now when you should be working - getting paid by MY tax dollars - your posting on here.

    Did you see what you fellow conservatives think of you?

    Too much of a coward to answer the thread?

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    I think most taxpayers realize that the government can play a role in developing infrastructure but which level of government performs this function the best? I think the States are more efficient and better atuned to allocating resources for infrastructure need. We should abolish the Federal Department of Education, the Interior, Department of Energy, Department of Labor and even the Department of Transportation.

    I also think a lot of the functions of government could be turned over to private business.

    Most conservatives have a problem with the federal government trying to take power and resources away from the states in an attempt to make everything a one-size-fits-all scheme.
    Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    The problem I have is the Government as envisioned by the left is being used to equalize outcomes. Ensuring an equal playing field is a reasonable function. After that, it should get the hell out of the way and let folks chase their dreams and aspirations to the best of their abilities and their level of preparation to be successful in whatever they choose.

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    Re: "You didn't build it"

    Quote Originally Posted by dwarthog View Post
    The problem I have is the Government as envisioned by the left is being used to equalize outcomes. Ensuring an equal playing field is a reasonable function. After that, it should get the hell out of the way and let folks chase their dreams and aspirations to the best of their abilities and their level of preparation to be successful in whatever they choose.

    That is rightwing bullsh!t sold to you and yours by people like george will who don't want anyone else to have the same advantages him and people like him have. No one has EVER said outcomes were to be the same. What we say is let folks chase their dreams and aspirations to the best of their abilities and their level of preparation to be successful in whatever they choose, not being held back because of race, gender or circumstances they were born into. That is all income redistribution bullsh!t

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