Then you must think government social service resources like Medicaid, Snap , public education and housing subsidies are infinite. You must also think that none of the poor citizens in this country legally work at low-skilled, low wage jobs.
Then you must think government social service resources like Medicaid, Snap , public education and housing subsidies are infinite. You must also think that none of the poor citizens in this country legally work at low-skilled, low wage jobs.
Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.
so i'm to understand that housing subsidies, SNAP and medicaid go to illegals?
i don't quite get that they can go to school, but i can basically understand why.
Is that a serious question?Originally Posted by yermom
http://www.cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011
We estimate that 52 percent of households with children headed by legal immigrants used at least one welfare program in 2009, compared to 71 percent for illegal immigrant households with children. Illegal immigrants generally receive benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born children.
Illegal immigrants get entitlement benefits in one of 2 ways:\
1. By the use of forged or false identification
2. Through their children who were born here.
BTW, the US is in the very small minority of nations that confers citizenship on children simply because they were born in the country.
Also, why are we allowing LEGAL immigrants into the country that require so much public assistance(over 50%)? An immigration policy should be encouraging the entry of skilled, independent immigrants...not those that need subsidized by tax payer money.
Last edited by FaninAma; 11/20/2014 at 02:59 PM.
Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.
so now we are talking about benefits for legal citizens?
personally, i'm a little tired of skilled immigrants taking our jobs. if they aren't moving them overseas, they are H1-B'ing them to undercut us here... who does that really help?
na, he just wants the constitution changed, you know the one conservatives love so much and should be followed to the letter, when they agree with it.
An immigrant, legal or otherwise, is not a citizen. You need to ask the 1 per centers like Mark Zuckerberg and the big corporations represented by the national Chamber of Commerce why they want more H1-B visas. I agree that they shouldn't be undercutting US citizens wages.
Last edited by FaninAma; 11/20/2014 at 07:25 PM.
Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.
What the heck are you talking about?
Beware the man who would rule you for your own good. He will never cease. He will regulate every aspect of your life, destroy your liberty and enslave you, and sleep well convinced that he has made the world a better place.
BTW, the US is in the very small minority of nations that confers citizenship on children simply because they were born in the country.
One of the foundations of our country - anyone can be an American.
Anyone can....legally.
BTW, the US is in the very small minority of nations that confers citizenship on children simply because they were born in the country.
One of the foundations of our country - anyone can be an American.
this is bull****
This was sent to me by a friend in an ealrier discussion about the inferred citizenship clause of the 14th amendment. Sorry I cannot ascertain its original source.Another source:The original intent of the 14th Amendment was to give former slaves citizenship after the Civil War including the right to due process. But, the original intent of the Amendment has been bastardized. The pertinent question is whether illegal aliens are "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" as written in the Constitution.
Numbers USA points out, scholars "have looked to the original Senate debate over the Fourteenth Amendment to determine its meaning. They conclude that the authors of the Fourteenth Amendment did NOT want to grant citizenship to every person who happened to be born on U.S. soil."
Numbers USA concludes that "The jurisdiction requirement was added to the original draft of the Fourteenth Amendment by the Senate after a lengthy and acrimonious debate. In fact, Senator Jacob Merritt Howard of Michigan proposed the addition of the phrase specifically because he wanted to make clear that the simple accident of birth in the United States was not sufficient to justify citizenship...Sen. Howard said that 'this will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.'"
Even though it is a misinterpretation of a Constitutional amendment passed by Congress 142 years ago, the Supreme Court has never decided the issue. It is now time to present the issue to the Supreme Court and hope that they reach the CORRECT decision that the children of ILLEGAL aliens born on U.S. soil does not entitle them to citizenship.
http://www.14thamendment.us/birthrig...al_intent.html
List of countries that do and do not grant birthright citizenship. * Note: this list is not up to date. Canada rescinded birthright citizenship in 2010 so the US is the ONLY advanced nation that still allows this.The original intent of the 14th Amendment was clearly not to facilitate illegal aliens defying U.S. law and obtaining citizenship for their offspring, nor obtaining benefits at taxpayer expense. Current estimates indicate there may be between 300,000 and 700,000 anchor babies born each year in the U.S., thus causing illegal alien mothers to add more to the U.S. population each year than immigration from all sources in an average year before 1965. (See consequences.)
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/l...tizenship.html
Last edited by FaninAma; 11/21/2014 at 12:11 PM.
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